MINUTES OF MEETING TURTLE RUN
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT

A  regular  meeting  of the  Board of  Supervisors  of the  Turtle  Run Community Development District was held on Monday, September 9, 2019 at 6:00 p.m. at the offices
of Governmental Management Services, 5385 N. Nob Hill Road, Sunrise, Florida 33351.

Present and constituting a quorum:
Chris Kapish Lance Morgan Skip Carney Zaida Karnegis John Pfeiffer

Chairman
Vice Chairman Assistant Secretary Assistant Secretary Assistant Secretary

Also present were:

Dennis Baldis Michael Pawelczyk Bob Zuccaro Jonathan Geiger Art  Maynard George Morris

District Manager District Counsel KCI Technologies KCI Technologies PHI Construction PHI Construction

FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS

Roll Call

Mr. Baldis called the meeting to order and called the roll.

SECOND ORDER OF BUSINESS
A moment of silence was held.

Moment of Silence

THIRD ORDER OF BUSINESS
Mr. Baldis led the pledge of allegiance.

Pledge of Allegiance

FOURTH ORDER OF BUSINESS

Good News

Mr. Baldis:  Fourth item is good news.  John do you have any good news?
Mr. Pfeiffer: We are still here.

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Mr. Baldis: Thank God for that.
Mr. Pfeiffer: Very grateful for that. If that thing had sat over us for two days like it did, we wouldn't have anything left here.  Very grateful for that and for you being here.
Ms. Karnegis: Thank you John, same here. Mr. Baldis: Skip?
Mr. Carney:  With the grace of God we are all still here.  Thank you.
Mr. Baldis: I agree.

FIFTH ORDER OF BUSINESS

Public Comment

Mr. Baldis: Public comment. There is no one here at the current time.  I am going to let you know right now that Item #7, there won't be a report. I still haven't received anything from Wausau Tile. Also #8 on your agenda is the License Agreement between Broward County and Turtle Run COD for the installation and maintenance of signposts at Tall Cypress Natural Area. I had that prepared for tonight but I got an email today that the County said that they have additional language that they wanted to add so that will be back on the agenda for the next meeting.
Mr. Pawelczyk:  Additional language they want to add to their agreement.
Mr. Baldis: Something addressing the city and how it is worded. Let the record show that Chris Kapish and Lance Morgan have arrived. We started the meeting and went through a couple of the agenda items. The roll call, pledge of allegiance, moment of silence.  I was explaining to the Board members that Item #7 will be put on again at the
next meeting because I didn't receive anything from Wausau Tile and also #8 will not be

addressed  tonight.

It is the consideration  of a license agreement  between  Broward

County and Turtle Run CDD for the installation and maintenance of sign posts at Tall Cypress Natural Preserve Area. We had that but I received an email this morning that the County wanted to add some language to that so I will be bringing that back to you next meeting. It is up to you where you would like to go. We went through the first three items.
Mr. Kapish:  What we need to discuss which is really important is this Turtle Creek Project.  Have you discussed that?
Mr. Baldis: No, we did Items 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and then I just told them about 7 and 8.

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Mr. Kapish: The only question that I have is about the wall.  Now that the County is into it and they want an approval, you got the comments back from the DRC right?
Mr. Geiger: Yes.
Mr. Kapish:  Now you are going to send it to Broward County?
Mr. Geiger: Isubmitted it online to them today. Quite frankly they weren't sure why Coral Springs is requiring them to review it because normally the development and the environmental division reviews subdivision construction in houses, apartments and stuff like that. I submitted it and they said they will take a look at it. If they have any questions, we will get back to you.
Mr. Kapish:  So, you expect that to be back when?
Mr. Geiger: Hopefully within a week.  Cristin said that on the last one she submitted it took about a week to get it back. I can follow-up at the end of this week. I don't need that approval until we go for building permit. I confirmed that today. They will approve the DRC with the comment that we have it in for review and as long as we have that review done before the building permit it will fine.
Mr. Baldis:  So hopefully by the next meeting we should be ok.
Mr. Geiger:  That should give us enough time to get it back from DRC. Mr. Baldis: By the next meeting we should have that all squared away.
Mr. Kapish: I hope so because this is going on too long. Alright. We are at with the other part of lot 56 and 57?
Mr. Geiger: I have the FPL consent agreement. Mike has to review it still. It needs your signature then it goes back to FPL for them to execute. Once I have that Ican submit the wall plans to DRC.
Mr. Kapish: Do we have that paperwork here tonight?
Mr. Pawelczyk: I wouldn't sign it until it has been reviewed by my office. It is probably the same form but we need to verify that.
Mr. Kapish: Ok so let's get that reviewed and get it signed. Mr. Pawelczyk: The Board would need to approve it as well. Mr. Kapish: Ok.
Mr. Pawelczyk:   So, I guess we will put it on for the  next agenda is what the
direction is.

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Mr. Baldis: What is the title of that Jonathan?
Mr. Pawelczyk:  FPL right-of-way consent agreement, sound wall south of lot 55. Mr. Baldis: Ok.
Mr. Kapish: You mentioned #7 Wausau Tile.  What is the status?
Mr. Baldis: I haven't received anything. I spoke to him today and it was mailed out. Samples of the colors and what the turtle and everything would look like for the bench and trash receptacle.
Mr. Kapish:  We are still waiting on that?
Mr. Baldis: I should get it in a few days and when I do you will have it. Mr. Kapish: We can go back to #5.  Anybody needs to talk?
Mr. Morris: Yes. Iwould like to introduce myself. My name is George Morris from PHI Construction. I have done some work for you guys in the past doing some walls and monuments of that nature. I just wanted  to have the opportunity to come here and introduce myself to you all. I know the meeting last week or whatever that I wasn't able to attend. I do a lot of other Boards and things like that in the community that I live so I apologize for that but I understand that there were some questions in regards to the last wall that we had constructed.  There was a couple of change orders that we had submitted I just wanted to be clear on.  Are you aware of the monument wall that I am referring to?
Mr. Baldis: All those change orders have been approved by the Board.
Mr. Morris: I know that they were approved, but does everyone understand the reason why they were generated?
Mr. Baldis: I believe they do or they wouldn't have approved them.
Mr. Morris: Ok. Ijust thought if anybody had any questions for me, I haven't had the opportunity to meet all of you. I have met some of you in the field. I just wanted to put a face to the name so if anybody has any questions to me.
Mr. Morgan: So, you built the original wall at 41st Street?
Mr. Baldis: No.
Mr. Kapish: Art did with another contractor. Mr. Morgan: How about the wall by Walmart?
Mr. Morris: That wall yes, I did across from Walmart.
Mr. Morgan:  And you did our entrance features, The Estates at Turtle Run.

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Mr. Morris:  That is correct. Yes.
Mr. Morgan: Didn't you build the pump station?
Mr. Morris: Yes. We really haven't submitted change orders in the past unless we are requested to do something above and beyond. I personally don't like change orders. That is not something that I seek out.
Mr. Morgan:  What were the change orders? Mr. Morris: With respect to the wall?
Mr. Morgan: The entrance feature.
Mr. Morris: The situation with that was that the architect when they drew the plans were supposed to connect  to the streetlight voltage and the voltage was the wrong voltage. There was no neutral wire.  It was incorrect for what we needed.  What we had to do is we had to have a custom transformer made to be able to apply to be able to light up the lighting and have the outlet for serving the wall. That was one change order. The second change order was we were supposed to get the power from this specific box that was in the ground located at such a distance from there. When we opened up the box low and behold there was no wiring that was supposed to be there for us. Allegedly this is hearsay,  what I heard is that the electrical contractor for the street lighting was supposed to install that but somehow he didn't do that or pulled off the job. I don't know the circumstances.
Mr. Kapish:  Dennis do you know the circumstances for that?
Mr. Baldis: I do. Rohl was doing the directional boring on Turtle Run Boulevard. We told him that we were putting the sign in and I asked him while you are doing the boring if he could do a bore over there. He said sure, and he was going to do that at no cost to us. He said Iwill pull the wire if you tell me what size wire. I said ok. Never heard any size wire and they moved on with their job and finished it. He did that as a favor. He had nothing to do with the job other than he was doing directional boring.
Mr. Morris: The understanding of Peacock was they designed their plans, was that there was supposed to be electrical wiring there so when we opened it up there was no wire. We have to put in about 300 linear feet of wire which was a considerable cost to pull.  It was not something that I wanted to do but it was something that we did do to finish
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Mr. Morgan: That is fine. The only problem that I really have since you have done four projects for us was the wall by Walmart was not similar to the wall at 41st Street. It is about a foot shorter or maybe even more. I don't know what happened there. A lot of people are blaming each other.
Mr. Morris: We offered to come back and make the wall larger at no cost. We put that out there just for the record but at the time it was decided to just leave it the way that it was. The problem is that the details in the plans were wrong because it called for 6 foot columns. If you put six foot columns without the anchor columns you can't have a six foot wall. That was the clear details on the plans and we followed it. It wasn't like we cheated and made the wall lower. The wall was actually taller than what it was because it was a foot below the ground. That was neither here nor there. It was a finished wall product that you guys were looking for. We went to highest point of six foot and it called for the columns to be that way. The wall was supposed to be shorter than the columns therefore by default it became shorter. Then when you came out there to look for a six foot wall it wasn't six foot. When we pointed out the error on the plans and we did offer to come back.
Mr. Morgan: Then you would have had to do something with the columns. So that is repairable.
Mr. Morris: Anything is repairable. We did offer and I think at the time it was deemed to just leave it the way that is was and then recognize the error on the plans.
Mr. Maynard: It wasn't repairable for one reason, because you could not have the wall columns go over six feet.
Mr. Morris:  By all means you did have my cooperation.  I did offer to fix it for free. Ijust wanted to explain myself and I appreciate you guys allowing me the time to introduce myself.  I have been a licensed general contractor for over 25 years.  Same company. own the company.  I have done a lot of work with cities and municipalities.
Mr. Morgan: We have a lot of more wall work coming up.
Mr. Morris: If you have other projects, I would be more than happy to bid on that.

Mr. Morgan: Do you have a business card?

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Mr. Morris: Absolutely. If anybody has any questions feel free to contact me. I do appreciate the relationship like I said, and moving forward if you guys need anything I would be more than happy to bid.
Mr. Morgan: Thank you.
Mr. Kapish: Ok we will go onto number 9 which is Staff reports. Mr. Baldis: There is other project updates on bond projects.
Mr. Kapish: Ok we didn't do that?
Mr. Baldis: No, we just did the fluffy stuff till you and Lance got here.

SIXTH ORDER OF BUSINESS

Update and Discussion of Projects for the Bonds

Mr. Geiger: Terrapin Lane is moving along smoothly. They are getting ready to switch over to the other side of the road once they figure out what the city is going to be completely ok with. We have a couple of change orders down the agenda for approval tonight. The slope they were finishing up the ADA curbing on the new ramps on the northbound side today. Sidewalk work, they are going to make sure the entire sidewalk on the northbound side is ready to go.
Mr. Baldis: Just to go back. Jonathan said they were going to switch to the other side. The original plan was to do one side of Terrapin Lane, mill it, do the curbing and then pave it and then flip to the other side. What is being discussed with the city now is to mill both sides of Terrapin Lane. They are going to put temporary stripping on the first side they have done tomorrow and then they are going to mill both sides, then pave it one time. Both sides. They are waiting to get the blessing from the city.
Mr. Kapish: Meaning to do it in that order?
Mr. Baldis: To have both sides milled without a finished coat down or one lift down. There shouldn't be a problem. They are confident as long as the temporary stripping is done. There shouldn't be an issue. The first side that was done would be the eastside. That will be opened up so traffic can go in and they will flip where the traffic will not be able to travel on the west side of Terrapin Lane which will be beneficial to the Turtle Run
Shoppes.  People will be able to go in that way again.

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Mr. Geiger: They said they are going to try to move the road closure forward past the Wendy's opening for the time being. I guess they have had some issues with the night business there. They find people moving their arrows every morning.
Mr. Baldis: We are meeting with the City Forester. I am sure you all have been on Terrapin Lane and there is an abundance of trees in this location here. I met with her already and she has agreed to let us remove some of those trees because some of them
are within 30 feet of each other, giant trees and they are destroying the sidewalk.  That

also  is going on over there.
understood the milling situation.

I am sorry Jonathan  I just  wanted to make sure they

Mr. Geiger: Did you go revisit the northbound lanes or did you guys talk about the southbound.  I know there was some trees on the other side of the road.
Mr. Baldis: We are setting up a meeting with her now that all the sidewalks have been replaced to go in and tag the trees we can take out. She said we can take out a lot of trees. Since they were planted that way, they haven't grown properly. They are struggling and fighting with each other.
Mr. Kapish: What about, was there any trees mentioned in the median because it looked that there was one area, I think it is right in here, there is a clump of trees. I see very little room for the light poles.
Mr. Baldis: That is something I have to look at with Jonathan. The directional boring has been done. I have a call into Rohl. I am trying to find out when that company that they are subcontractor can come in and start installing the poles. We also have the annual tree trimming on Terrapin Lane today. The idea is to get the tree trimming done, all the trees removed that we are going to be allowed to remove and the installation of the decorative street lighting in before they start paving so we can get all the heavy trucks out and they will just pave it and everything will be done other than mowing the grass. The irrigation also is being installed now as we speak.
Mr. Kapish: What about this?  Will they repair the asphalt on the outer side? Mr. Geiger:  They might put a cold patch there.
Mr. Kapish: Where this crosswalk is would they just cut that and put, somehow mill that little section and asphalt it because otherwise you are going to have a patch.
Mr. Geiger: I am not sure if they go past the concrete.

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Mr. Baldis: We can talk to them because when they did the other side, they brought their attention about going into the entrances further so it wouldn't be a patch. I don't think they want to patch any more than we do.
Mr. Kapish: That is what I am saying, just to go into the entrance a little bit.

Mr. Baldis: I think they will.

We will talk to them. They have been very easy to

work with. Also, you requested this to be removed totally and it has been removed and it is going to be replaced completely.
Mr. Kapish: Make sure when they do it, it doesn't hold water.
Mr. Geiger: They said they are going to make sure there isn't going to be any puddling issue there.
Mr. Kapish: The wall that is down by Harbor Island, the wall that extends into their property, should we be taking care of that at least taking that out and removing it?
Mr. Baldis: If you would like.
Mr. Kapish: Why don't we ask the contractor with the heavy equipment and everything there?
Mr. Baldis: I can ask him tomorrow if that is something that he can do or willing to do. If not, I can go up and ask Anzco to come down. He is wall guy. I will ask that question tomorrow and Iwill get an answer.  Is it ok with the Board if I get to move forward
with that or not? We have time to bring it back to the next meeting.

Mr. Geiger:

I am just going to need a heads up on that so that I can let survey

know so they can get out there and clearly mark it out.
Mr. Baldis:  Here is your heads up.  Have survey go out.
Mr. Kapish: You want to cut that wall in a certain way whether it is leave a column or whatever it is.
Mr. Baldis: I understand. I will talk to them tomorrow about it.
Mr. Kapish: What did Casey Lee say about that sidewalk that went like that where the bench and the pavers are right now?
Mr. Baldis: We really didn't go on that side. We are setting up a meeting with her again. I wanted to get some of the work done before she came back. Now we are kind of ready for her to come in.
Mr. Kapish: You have to cut those roots.

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Mr. Baldis: I know where you are talking about.  I will address that with her. Mr. Kapish:	You have to do that to the sidewalk.
Mr. Geiger: That is actually one of the areas that Florida Blacktop said that they would bring an arborist in there if they were going to root cut because of how raised those sidewalks are. They grade different with that tree sitting in the sidewalk. It is a little bit more dramatic on the other side of the road. That might be a good area to look at with Casey Lee.
Mr. Baldis: We have the tree arborist on site.
Mr. Kapish: Ok just making sure. Anymore Terrapin Lane discussion? Anybody have any questions? I guess we need to talk to Steve about the President over there about that wall.
Mr. Baldis: I have spoken to him several times. He seems very ok with it. Said he talked to the homeowner. They are ok with it. They are all happy that the work is being done for the most part.
Mr. Geiger: Creekside Drive right-of-way that is still in for review. I contacted Stanford today, left him a message. He said he was going to follow-up last week. Never got back to me. I left a message with engineering and then Chad asking on the status. Online it says it was due by the 151 of this month and it is now the gth and we have yet to get it back. I am trying to make sure someone is actually looking at it. I don't anticipate
comments until Stanford pulls the permit.  We addressed most of what we thought Coral

Springs would have an issue with before we submitted.

Jose our traffic engineer it still

doing his analysis of the crash data and the traffic counts there to make his recommendation on shutting down the left turn lane off of Creekside onto Turtle Creek there. I can check with him tomorrow and see how much longer he thinks he is going to need on that.
Mr. Kapish:  We submitted those plans not with those expansions.
Mr. Geiger:   We submitted the plans without the lane being closed off and the stripping.
Mr. Kapish: What about Tortoise Way?

Mr. Geiger:  I have the survey for that last week.

I have to start getting some

concept plans for that.   It is going to be pretty similar to what we are doing at Terrapin

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and Creekside as far as just milling and surfacing. Dennis and I previously walked the site so everything was marked out that needed to be replaced so that should all be on the plans. There shouldn't be any surprises this time. That is something that I have to sit down and actually get drafted out now that I have the survey.
Mr. Kapish:  While we are talking about that and Tortoise Way, I noticed some of the reflective lights you mentioned Skip a while back that are not working.
Mr. Carney: They are still not there.  They are pointing in the wrong direction or something.
Mr. Kapish:  Somebody needs to go out there from that company because there is some yellow ones that are out.
Mr. Carney: They have to go out there at night, not during the day.
Mr. Pfeiffer: That makes sense.

Mr. Carney: Mr. Kapish:
as the other ones.
Mr. Pfeiffer:

You can't see that light during the day.
That was a lot of money.  There is a couple of them are not as bright It is like they are not turned on.
Does it depend on how much sun we have had?

Mr. Carney: The amount of money we paid for them they should be better. Mr. Kapish:  I don't know if the mechanism inside is bad or not.
Mr. Baldis: I will call them tomorrow.
Mr. Kapish: How many would you say there is Skip?
Mr. Carney: There is at least a half a dozen on one side when you are going from east to west.
Mr. Pawelczyk:  I recall a pretty significant warranty in there.
Mr. Kapish: I know there is a spot going east that looks like someone drove over some of them with a skid mark but that shouldn't do anything.
Mr. Geiger: On the Turtle Creek flagpole project Igot an email from Stanford today. He has informed me that the flagpole company cannot give him the tax-free exemption that you guys had him quote. So, there is going to be additional cost for the taxes on that. It comes to a little bit over $1,400. Iam working on getting him all the plans and documents
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drawings from the flagpole company.  I have been in contact with him making sure he is coordinating with the flagpole company with the electrical subcontractor as well.
Mr. Pawelczyk: I just want to make sure you have the appropriate approvals to authorize the payment of the sales tax on the flagpoles to complete the project. Your other option is to directly purchase the poles.
Mr. Geiger: There is also tax on the drawings and their services as well.
Mr. Kapish:   I guess the issue is $1,400 versus doing it the other way, trying to save the money if we purchase them ourselves.  Any discussion about that?
Mr. Zuccaro: Is it $1,400 even?
Mr. Geiger:  The flagpoles are a little over $20,000 so 7% of that came out to a little over $1,400.
Mr. Baldis: What is the number we can't put down a little bit over.
Mr. Geiger: I don't have the proposal on me. It was less than $1,500 I know that.
Mr. Pawelczyk:  Motion to authorize a not to exceed $1,500 to pay the sales tax on the flagpole project subject to final review by the District Manager.

Mr. Geiger: Turtle Creek Drive lake access path, another brick paver path that Stanford is contracted to do. I have addressed all the DRC comments. I am waiting on easement agreements.  I sent those out today so those should be pretty quick from what I understand. Ijust have to get Stanford plans and documents so they can go to permitting once we get DRC approval with the two sound walls the same situation. I submitted to Broward County Development Environmental Division today for their review. I will contact them later this week or early next week to see when we should expect an approval back. Submitted for the four lots on the wall. The wall encroaches on an easement in the corner so I had to submit for easement agreements as well on that. We actually got one of those back. As I explained earlier the lots 55 and 58 wall, we just  need the FPL agreement
executed by both parties.  I am going to need to submit for DRC review.  I can potentially

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start submitting that prior but we are going to

get comments back so I can get it in there

but it is not going to be approved till we get the executed agreement.
Mr. Pawelczyk: Was that the one that was approved or is that the one that you are asking me to review?

Mr. Geiger: That is the one you need to review.

On Friday we met with our

Highways Department, they are doing the Turtle Creek Drive plans for the bike lanes.
Mr. Baldis:  Friday we met with the gentleman who is involved with the bike lane

on Turtle  Creek.

Some  questions  that  I brought  up was  they  plan  on  painting the

intersections green.  The bullnoses will be painted yellow and then we are getting orange delineators at Creekside.
Mr. Kapish:  They are going to put delineators there?
Mr. Baldis: That is the plan and that is the color that I see everywhere else. Mr. Kapish: They are orange.
Mr. Baldis: That is what we have everywhere I see them on the roads. My point was we have all these different colors going on so I asked them to ask to have the green in the streets so it doesn't look so much like 441 that it still has the appearance of being a neighborhood type street. They are getting rid of all the F-curb along the median and replacing it with D curb. They are replacing all the sidewalk flags that are broken.  There is some drainage down here in this area that is in the median. So, they are eliminating all those catch basins and all the water will flow to the sidewalk side.
Mr. Kapish: How do you do that?
Mr. Zuccaro: I thought they said they were going to remain. Mr. Baldis: They are remaining?
Mr. Zuccaro: Yes.
Mr. Baldis: So, they are going to remain without the F curb. Mr. Geiger: There might be a small section of curbing.
Mr. Baldis: Awesome.
Mr. Geiger:  They are keeping the one at the top.
Mr. Baldis: It shows the F curb in that area where the catch basins are remaining? Mr. Geiger:  No it looks like they are going to....
Mr. Kapish: I thought they needed to take all the F curbs out.

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Mr. Baldis: No. If you could explain Bob or Jonathan why they are taking the F curb out and the widths of the two lanes.  I know one lane is bigger than the other one.
Mr. Zuccaro: Right now there is 24 feet of asphalt pavement. You have an F curb on each side, on the inside of the median and on the outside. Effectively there is 24 feet of asphalt. They are going to need 25 Yz because instead of two 12 foot lanes they are going to need one 10, one 11 because it is a bus route plus 4 Yz feet for the bike lane so that is a total of 25 Yz feet. They need to pick up a foot Yz so they are going to take the 2 foot F curb out and put a D curb back in.
Mr. Kapish: On Wiles Road and 441 they have this little space, it looks like it is a separator but it is just a painted area.
Mr. Zuccaro:  What you are going to have is something like this.
Mr. Kapish: I am against that totally. All the roadwork we  have done in here wherever there was D curb we got rid of it for a reason. First of all, drainage, and you have asphalt up next to the curb, all it does is create a maintenance issue because we have weeds that grow up between the D curb and the asphalt. It is a mess so we have been working all these years to get rid of the D curb, we don't want to take a whole road and make it all D curb.  I don't understand that.
Mr. Zuccaro: The inside the median only.
Mr. Kapish: I understand that.  That doesn't matter.  We eliminated all the D curb

and now we are getting the whole road done that way.

You start to widen this road, I

think the end result is that this is a business/residential area, more residential than it is business, all you are doing is they are making that road wider. You are going to get faster speeds, people going through there faster. What we were trying to do is slow the traffic down by making the road smaller.
Mr. Geiger: They are making the lanes smaller. They are doing a 10 and 11 foot lane.  They have to do that for the buses.
Mr. Kapish: Which one is the 11 foot lane, the outside or the inside?
Mr. Geiger: The lane closest to the sidewalk. Effectively because they are taking the gutter away, the road was kind of already that wide to begin with. It is just going to be pavement instead of concrete but you are also going to have a bike lane on the outside
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Mr. Kapish: Why can't they keep the road the way it is with two twelve foot lanes and I guess if you do an 11 and 10 you don't have the footage.
Mr. Zuccaro: Effectively from facet curb to facet curb it is going to be the same
dimension.  No different. Right now, it is 24 plus 3 feet which is 27.

Mr.  Kapish:  Ok well  they  have  right-of-way.
Coconut Creek is not participating in this.

I understand  that  Margate  and

Mr. Geiger: Coconut Creek pulled out because with the new development going in so they didn't see a point in redoing the road, they were going to rip it up and do with what they want anyways.
Mr. Kapish: I don't understand why this project is going forward. If the whole idea was to make a loop around Margate, Coconut Creek, and Coral Springs. Wasn't that the whole point?
Mr. Geiger: That was the original intention of the plan was to create a loop with bike paths and all of that.
Mr. Kapish: Now you have two cities that have pulled out, you only have Coral Springs. They look at it as it as they are getting a free new road out of it but why are we doing it.  That is the question that I think needs to be answered.  Why are we doing this?
Mr. Zuccaro: It is part of the MPL program.
Mr. Kapish: Why don't we do this, if they want to do all that, why don't' they take all the F curb on the outside like they do on 441 right now removing it a 1 %' out. Then you preserve all your median and you actually maintain everything that you are talking about. Take all the F curb on the outside and just move it out because you have the right­ of-way. You have the room to do it. You just put basically the curb up next to the sidewalk. You have that green grass that is next to the sidewalk that is a foot or two feet whatever it is on both sides.
Mr. Zuccaro: That is an option, I guess.
Mr. Geiger: I spoke to them at the beginning of this project. They explained that there is a lot of utilities off the side of the road. Basically, by widening on the outside it creates a lot of extra work that the MPL probably doesn't have funding for and is not in their scope to do a lot of extra stuff.
Mr. Kapish:  If Margate and Coconut Creek are not in the scope.

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Mr. Geiger: It is what they are allowed to do with the money, not how much money they have.  They are only allowed to do things related to getting the bike lanes.
Mr. Kapish: What do you think Lance? Mr. Morgan: I don't know.
Mr. Kapish: It seems like they are coming in here and doing something that we were supposed to be included. We were supposed to be at the table and they seem to have all these plans, an already done deal and all that is being done is saying here is what we are doing whether we like it or not. Ijust think that we are doing ourselves as a District, we are doing ourselves a big disservice by letting this go forward because we are going to create a mini-highway.
Mr. Zuccaro: I don't think that would be true Chris. I think that if you have a bike lane and then you have smaller lanes, you have two 12 foot lanes and you are going to have one 10 and one 11.
Mr. Kapish:  Zaida what do you think?  John?
Mr. Pfeiffer: I defer to the expert. He says it is going to be a little more traffic calming with the bike lanes and we are not expanding it to a super highway, we are actually shrinking it.
Mr. Zuccaro: You have two through 12 foot lanes and there will be a 10 and 11 and then the bike lane will be on the outside.
Mr. Kapish: It is going to be more heavily traveled then is what I am saying. At the end of the day you are going to create more traffic.
Mr. Pfeiffer: Because why?  Why would you have more traffic?
Mr. Kapish: Because if you are putting bike lanes you are creating more people. You are putting people next to the road way which Turtle Run, the bike lanes that we have are single lanes.
Mr. Pfeiffer: There is bike lanes on Sample Road. That is four lanes. Mr. Kapish:  I wouldn't let my daughter ride a bike on Sample Road. Mr. Pfeiffer:  I don't think it is going to make it traverse.
Mr. Kapish: So, what say so do we have about this?
Mr. Zuccaro: I guess you could object to the County, tell them you don't want the project.  The Feds are funding it.

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Mr. Kapish:  We need to have some input into it is what I am saying.
Mr. Zuccaro: I don't see how you can improve from what they have done. They are doing the minimal amount of impact on that road. You are going to get a fully paved roadway, a 10 foot, 11 foot and 4 % foot bike lane, all milled and asphalted. It is not going to cost you anything.
Mr. Baldis: I don't know how much traction we are going to get because of who we are dealing with. One of the things I brought was the maintenance of it, who is going to make sure the bike lane is painted green. Who is going to make sure all the curbs are painted yellow all the time because all we ever hear is we have no money that will be scheduled in 15 years. Where is that going to fall? I am concerned about as we all are about Creekside and Turtle Creek. I would try and figure out how to put another traffic calming device in there whether we try to work with them with the traffic signal there so it is not so easy to come through Terrapin Lane and cut through that it becomes a very long light that they have to sit there or the other way around. Something needs to be done to slow the traffic down.   If it is not fast to go through there, they are going to go other
directions,  that is why we are doing Terrapin Lane.

Mr.  Kapish:	Turtle  Creek  here feeds  Toys  R Us.

It feeds  Lowe's.

It feeds

Burlington.  It feeds Target.  It also feeds Petsmart or whatever it says over there and the Bank.  Basically, it feeds all those businesses and people use Creekside to cut through.
Mr. Baldis: I just don't know how you are going to slow the traffic there no matter what you do.
Mr. Carney: The street is extremely busy, we just need to do something to slow the traffic.
Mr. Kapish:  Then we are going to let them put expansions there. Mr. Carney: What are the expansions for?
Mr. Baldis:  Delineators.  The plastic things they put in the road like, I brought you a picture.
Mr. Zuccaro: That is on Creekside.
Mr. Baldis: Yes, but it is all involved in this whole traffic flow. Mr. Zuccaro: It is not a part of this program.
Mr. Baldis: No. We are looking at the big picture.

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Mr. Kapish: We are not just looking at one road, we are looking at all of them.
Mr. Baldis: How do you slow this down? The ideal thing would be to put a traffic light here to have a right turn only and the traffic light. Whatever. The cut through is what you are going to try to get them to stop and I think their intentions is to make it as fast as possible.
Mr. Kapish: Exactly that is what I believe too. Mr. Baldis: They want it to go fast.
Mr. Kapish: There is some kind of reason this is being pushed. What is the reason especially if two other cities are dropping out of it?
Mr. Zuccaro: It is part of the bike lane program.
Mr. Kapish: Iknow but it doesn't go anywhere because the other two cities dropped
out.
Mr. Zuccaro: Ithink it would be very hard to argue with them that you are increasing traffic because you are going from 24 feet of effective travel lane to 21.  If anything, they

would  argue to  say that would  slow  it down.
standpoint.

I am just  saying from  an engineering

Mr.  Kapish:	What  I am saying  is the volume  of traffic there  is only going to increase.
Mr. Zuccaro: Why?
Mr. Pfeiffer: It is still two lanes.
Mr. Kapish: I understand it is two lanes but the heaviest volume of traffic is that road and what we are looking to do is cut the traffic down. I think it should be a one lane road.
Mr. Geiger: That will never happen.
Mr. Kapish: I don't know if you want to encourage people riding their bikes over
there.
Mr. Baldis: What is the speed limit on that street?
Mr. Geiger: I think is it 35 mph in your whole community is it not?
Mr. Baldis: Maybe the solution is to put a detail officer everyday writing tickets and slowing the traffic down.

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Mr. Kapish: When we had the detail, there was a lot of traffic tickets there. They were flying through there.
Mr. Baldis: They fly it is scary.
Mr. Kapish: We are looking to calm it.
Mr. Morgan: The only good news is it is pretty far away from all of our residents. Less traffic would be better however it is what it is. It is right in the middle of the commercial district.
Ms. Karnegis: That is the reason why there is so much traffic.
Mr. Morgan: If you were to ask Walmart, Lowe's and the Shoppes at Turtle Run they would be against any calming in there at all. They want as much traffic to their businesses and easy access to their business. The death of a business is no access to that business.
Mr. Pfeiffer: Just enforce the speed limit there like you said more patrols like Dennis
said.
Mr. Geiger: Do you want me to check to see if they had to do a traffic study? Maybe they did something prior to putting this together that conclusively say we did a study and it is not going to increase the volume of traffic.
Mr. Kapish: Yes, more information.  We don't really even have a copy of the plans. Mr. Zuccaro: We have them.	He has a thumb drive if you want to look at it.
Mr. Kapish: I still don't understand if it was a project to accomplish something and the goal was to have three cities participation and you don't have that I just don't understand why they are doing it.
Mr. Geiger: I think it has to do with the fact that each city does their own improvements, I guess these MPL improvements. It was never contingent on all three cities being in it.  Coral Springs it still makes sense.
Mr. Kapish: I think we need to have some kind of resolve with Turtle Creek and the intersection of Creekside.
Mr. Geiger: Creekside like I said I will follow up with Jose tomorrow to see where he is on his recommendation. If the data proves that it is beneficial to close that lane down, the city already said they would take a look at that again.
Mr. Baldis: Let's do that.

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Mr. Kapish: If you lived in Harbor Island or Newport you are not going to be happy about any of this stuff. There are two housing developments that use that road. Who do we sit down and speak to on this?
Mr. Zuccaro: You have to get with the County. They submitted their 90% plans today. The plans will be let out in March 2020 and construction is going to start June of next year. That is the schedule. Mark said that you could probably go to the County and approach them about it. That was about, I think that they were talking about was trying to get rid of the green. I don't know about getting the section of the road changed. I don't see that happening.
Mr. Kapish: I agree with Dennis. I think all that painting and stuff that is just going to make it look like a business road and it is going to be ugly. When it is ready to be repainted, who is going to paint it, not us.
Mr. Geiger: The County maintains that road at that point.
Mr. Kapish:  You mean the city road becomes a county road.
Mr. Geiger: As far as I was told the County maintains the paving marking and signage even though it is a city road. You guys manage the rest of the roads because you have a license agreement that says that you were going to do that.
Mr. Kapish: They never did any maintenance on any of the roads period. Our stop signs are 35 years old and faded out.
Mr. Zuccaro: I guess you could write an objection letter on behalf of the District. think it has to be coordinated with the city as well.
Mr. Kapish: We were supposed to be included in this and I say included now that the plans are out, that is not included. That is a done deal. They didn't talk to us and say what do you think about this.  What do you think about that?
Mr. Geiger: I am pretty sure they had a couple of public meetings, the City of Coral Springs. There would have been an opportunity there. I wasn't aware of any personally but I know they had to have at least one or two.
Mr. Kapish: I am talking about actually having the engineers sit down with us, the District and discuss it, not a public meeting hearing in City Hall where nothing gets accomplished.  You walk up there and speak for three minutes and you say what you say
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Mr. Zuccaro: What is the objection going in on behalf of the District if we talk to these guys?  What are you objecting to, the bike lane?
Mr. Kapish:  The green is one of them, isn't it?
Mr. Zuccaro: The green issue I have to present this to you. It was discussed with our highway guys. They said that you might be hitting on legal issues because it is according to MUTC requirements if you don't do it in accordance with that. If something happens it could be subject to a lawsuit.  That was their take on it.
Mr. Kapish: We just built a bike lane and we didn't paint it green. Mr. Geiger: We had the city engineer sign off on that though.
Mr. Kapish: There are existing bike lanes that are not painted green.
Mr. Zuccaro: It is all part of the latest guidelines now.  They have them on Wiles.
It is not throughout, it is where there is a turn lane.
Mr. Kapish: I know how it is designed.  They also make a curb, I don't know if you have ever seen this but they do make a miniature F curb where you have the curb and it is a miniature and it goes out not very far, just a couple inches just to catch the rain water. Mr. Zuccaro: This is on the high side.  There is no drainage on the high side of the median.  They are only doing it in the median.  So, there is no water being carried on the
high side.
Mr. Kapish: The Dcurb next to the asphalt, what our maintenance people have to do and what our landscaper has to do is he has to spray that every once in a while or cut it with a weed whacker that grow up into the roadway. It becomes a maintenance and makes it an eyesore. That is virtually what they are doing, they are going to create for us a maintenance and an eyesore so they can get their bike lane.
Mr. Zuccaro:  I will be glad to approach them with an objection but let me know what the objections are and we will cite that.
Mr. Kapish: Those are the major objections right there.
Mr. Zuccaro: Which is what, weeds growing by the D curb?
Mr. Kapish:  Again, you can pour a curb anyway you want to but they have the miniature F curb that at least we won't have the weeds growing up in the roadway.
Mr. Zuccaro: But weeds can grow up between the F curb and the asphalt as well.
Mr. Kapish: They generally don't though.

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Mr. Zuccaro: Iam sorry I can't argue that but Iwill be glad to list it if you want.  Your objections are the maintenance of the D curb, the maintenance of the whole roadway by the county who is going to maintain that if they are.  Do they have a budget for that? What is the other argument?   The design speed is going to be increased are you saying? can't argue that.  You are going from 24 feet to 21.
Mr. Pfeiffer: With a bike lane.
Mr. Zuccaro: I am talking about thoroughfare and where the traffic is traveling.
Mr. Kapish: Are they replacing all the broken sidewalk and making the ADA updates?
Mr. Zuccaro: They are doing that.  That is part of the program.
Mr. Kapish: Are they going to be replacing all the broken F curb that needs to be replaced?
Mr. Geiger: That I do not think are on the plans. It calls to replace curb but again they are very limited on what they can do with the money.
Mr. Zuccaro: The scope of work is stripping, milling, resurfacing, modifying F curb to D curb in the median, ADA ramps and sidewalk funds.  Jonathan has the drawings.
Mr. Geiger: I didn't see any curb on the outside being replaced or repaired.
Mr. Kapish: All the projects that we are doing, you know we walked Central and we ended up replacing some of the curbs that were cracked in half. I don't understand why you would spend all that money and not fix a curb that is broken or a sidewalk that is broken.
Mr. Geiger: They are doing quite a bit of sidewalk. Mr. Zuccaro: Sidewalk and ADA ramps.
Mr. Baldis: I guess one thing that we would be interested in is the F curb to make sure that there is no puddling and if it is broken that they could make it so it isn't broken and that the water does flow on the sidewalk side.  Just so that it operates properly and it is in good shape.  That would be something that we would be interested in.
Mr. Zuccaro: So, the D curb maintenance with weeds growing. The maintenance of the roadway itself by the county. Do they have funding to do that? That is a concern that the District has.  F curb on the outside, make sure that it is properly constructed so
there is no ponding.  I can cite those and put it in writing to them.

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Mr. Kapish: How about modifying the D curb where like I said you can take an F curb and shrink it down.  Have you ever seen that before?
Mr. Zuccaro: No because you need that to get the width for the travel lane. They are picking up a foot Yi by getting rid of the F curb. That is the only way you can fit it in with what you are doing now, otherwise you would have rip the F curb out on the outside and shift everything. You don't want to be doing that. In essence from face to face that curb is going to be the same.
Mr. Kapish: They are doing it on 441. They are not doing anything to the median, they are gaining their space on the outside. I don't know what the utilities are next to an F curb between a curb and sidewalk.
Mr. Geiger: You have drainage on the outside. Most of your drainage is on the outside.  You would have to move all those catch basins and everything.
Mr. Kapish:  If there is federal funds that they got grant money and stuff. Mr. Geiger:  The money kind of locked it into that type of work.
Mr. Kapish: Ok let's move onto the next topic.
Mr. Zuccaro: Is that a directive that you want us to do?
Mr. Kapish: I would like to see a dialogue on some of those items yes.
Mr. Zuccaro: I have direction from the Board that the Board is objecting to the design as it currently is and citing these three things?
Mr. Kapish:  Yes.
Mr. Zuccaro:  Do you need a vote for that?
Mr. Kapish: No there is nothing wrong with sitting down with someone who is going to rip up your streets and talk to them.
Mr. Carney: What about that intersection, is that something? That is the key element.
Mr. Zuccaro: Yes, but that is not part of this program. That is in the process with our guys.  Our guys are researching that right now.
Mr. Kapish:  That has to come to some kind of resolve.
Mr. Baldis: When they do Creekside, does the green go across the entire intersection?
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Mr. Baldis: So, it wouldn't be going all the way across Creekside Drive. Mr. Geiger: No, they don't cross the intersection.
Mr. Morgan: The best place to see it Dennis  is just east of on Winston Park Boulevard to Lyons.
Mr. Baldis:  How does it look?
Mr. Morgan: The color green looks really bad but it gets your attention. Mr. Baldis:  It serves its purpose.
Mr. Kapish: Also too, the life expectancy of stripping on a road, it doesn't last more than five years.  In five years, it is all crap.
Mr. Zuccaro: Skip the green is what they call in the conflict areas where they start to have a right turn lane.  It is not a continuous green the whole length.
Ms. Karnegis: Is this due to all the accidents with the bicyclers and everything that this came about?
Mr. Geiger: I am not sure the history of it.
Ms. Karnegis: I was just wondering because my husband is a bicyclist and he is part of this group and I know that they are forming groups because of that and having cities recognize bicyclists and having bike lanes. So, they are getting  stronger and stronger.
Mr. Pawelczyk: I wouldn't think that would have anything to do with why the project came up because typically what happens is the metropolitan planning organization which is county and a group of cities that have representatives on it, if Federal grant funding is available, they come up and say this would be a good project and they apply for that. That is what those three cities probably originally did. They were all on board at first and now it is down to the MPO and Coral Springs basically.
Mr. Kapish: Dennis and I were advised about this project. We sat down with the engineers from KCI who has the contract.
Mr. Zuccaro: We sat with them last year.
Mr. Kapish: It was explained to myself that the reason why they were doing this was because they were doing with the three cities and since they saw this as an area of shopping on the Margate side you have Best Buy and all that plaza.  On the north side
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then it goes down to where the Winn Dixie is.  It goes in a big circle. What they were trying to create was a public area where you could have a lot pedestrians in there along with traffic and have this as a thoroughfare for shopping and that type of thing. The purpose was to put more people there because that is what a bike lane does. When I said that it is going to be a busier road, I didn't mean just traffic. You  are throwing pedestrians in there and that was the purpose of it. Once you took out the other two links there is no purpose for it. The purpose is gone.  It is still continuing for whatever reason. I don't see it benefiting Turtle Run.   Redoing the road is a benefit but if it was redone
according to the way we do the road work that would be a benefit.  That is the way I look

at it.	How does Turtle Run benefit from this?

Ok let's go onto the next item.

SEVENTH ORDER OF BUSINESS

Update

and

Discussion

from Wausau Tile

(This item was tabled to next meeting)

EIGHTH ORDER OF BUSINESS

Consideration

of	license

Agreement between Broward County and Turtle Run COD for Installation and Maintenance of

Signposts Natural Area

at

Tall

Cypress

(This item was tabled to next meeting)

NINTH ORDER OF BUSINESS
A. Attorney
Mr. Kapish:  Mike?

Staff Reports

Mr. Pawelczyk: I don't have anything to bring to you today. Mr. Kapish: Any questions for Mike?
Mr. Carney: No thank you.

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B. Engineer - Ratification of Change Orders for Terrapin ane Right -of-Way Improvements

1)
2)
3)
4)

Change Order #1
Change Order #5
Change Order #6
Change Order #7

Mr. Kapish: We will go to change orders.
Mr. Geiger: You have four change orders on the agenda for Terrapin Lane. If you look at Change order #5, this change order was for the cost to relocate the eastbound approach signal head at Terrapin Lane and Turtle Creek Drive. That was part of the Broward County Traffic Engineering.
Mr. Baldis: This is Florida Blacktop correct?

Mr. Geiger:

Yes.

That was  part of their  requirements.

We went  from  the

intersection of Turtle Creek and Terrapin Lane. Northbound we went from a left exclusive, a through exclusive, and a right exclusive to a left right through and left exclusive. So, you have an approach signal head right now that is in the center of all three lanes. The traffic needs to be moved five or six feet over. They have to fill the holes from the old signal head and they had to get a certified signal electrician to do the work.  So, this was a cost that we didn't know was going to be associated. Broward County didn't originally give us a lot of direction on what needed to be done so we put it on the plans. After going
back and forth it turns out it is just literally moving the signal head over. This change order

is for $3,271.80.
Blacktop.

It is to pay Signal Technology  Inc. to perform this work for Florida

Mr. Kapish:  Where is the signal?
Mr. Geiger:  It is the approach signal northbound on Terrapin Lane. Mr. Kapish: It is in the wrong spot?
Mr. Geiger: Right now, it is in the correct spot.  When we eliminated the left lane and made it is a left and through right, it is going to be over the left turn lane.  It needs to
be centered with the two lanes.

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Mr. Geiger: The next one is Change order #6. Change order #6 is related to the fact that we were unsure if the contractor was going to install everything on the decorative pole or if that was going to come after the project was completed. We never had a bid item, a line item in for the signage.  It is a couple of signs.
Mr. Baldis: This is Florida Blacktop?
Mr. Geiger: Yes. It is for a couple new signs that needed to be put in per Broward County traffic engineering approvals and a couple of sign posts that they are happy to put in. This one is $4,267.63. It is the cost of materials and labor for the installation. Again, this was not something that was not on the bid form to begin with. Any contractor that would have done this job would have had to do a change order.
Mr. Kapish: This won't be our decorative poles.
Mr. Geiger: This would be the standard sign poles so we can get Broward County Traffic approval and then we can submit for our decorative pole replacement plan.
Mr. Kapish: That is a lot of money.  How many signs?
Mr. Geiger: Six signs, two new posts and then removal and disposal of all the existing signs.
Mr. Carney: Why can't we do it right the first time with the decorative sign posts. Can't you do that? You say put the posts in, then we are going to change them to decorative sign posts.  Why can't we just do that?
Mr. Geiger: I was going back and forth with the city and the county, they would prefer us to put the two signs that we had to put in normal posts, close that out before we submit for a whole separate project.
Mr. Kapish: But you are not, you are putting a sign up that just have a decorative post. People love to spend other people's money. This $4,000 is a lot of money for six signs.
Mr. Baldis: These are Li-Channel signs?
Mr. Geiger: They are the normal Broward County standard sign posts. Mr. Baldis: So, they are $700 apiece.
Mr. Geiger:  They are expensive.

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Mr. Carney:  Then we are going to take them down and change them. Ms. Karnegis: You need this done to close it out?
Mr. Geiger: Yes, this is kind of where this came from going back and forth with the city engineering.  We don't have the permit closed out for Turtle Run Boulevard Central yet because we don't have decorative sign posts up.  So, what we are running into there now is the stripping might have to be touched up because it has been over a year now and we have to be able to do the closeout for that.  The county and the city, there is also the issue that we had to do separate plans and there was separate license agreements to be signed.  So, then there are two active permits for the same overlapping work with two different contractors.  I went back and forth with them to try and smooth this out and not have to do this. It was what the city wanted to see and what the county wanted to see.
Mr. Kapish: Did you ever mention to them about this is a double payment and this is tax dollars and this is wasting tax dollars to do the same thing twice?
Mr. Geiger: I didn't mention that but I don't feel like the city or the county is going to consider that a reason not to do it.
Mr. Kapish: We are not trying to not do anything by the book, all we are trying to do is to get our signs put in that maybe we can get them in the same time that these signs would come in and save us some money.
Mr. Geiger: The signs are not even ordered for this roadway yet. I have spoken to Mainnor. For that to happen it can turn into Turtle Run Boulevard Central again where this could sit for a 1 % years. I am not even sure at this point that Broward County Traffic would even approve plans knowing that we are doing roadway that they already approved plans for.
Mr. Kapish: Well whose price is this?
Mr. Geiger: Attached to the change order is the invoice for the actual signage. Mr. Kapish:  That is a vendor that is doing it correct?
Mr. Geiger: They are buying the signs they do their own installation. Mr. Kapish: Who does?
Mr. Geiger:  Florida Blacktop.  They are not paying a subcontractor to install the
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to find a new subcontractor to do the work.	I don't know who is doing their stripping,  I don't know if that person installs signs as well.
Mr. Kapish: I just think it is an expensive price. Why can't they go out and get another price?  Don't you guys think it is expensive?
Mr. Geiger: It was in line with the other bids we had on other projects as far as signage went.
Mr. Kapish:  Are we allowed to ask them to get another price? Mr. Geiger: I can reach out and see if they can get another price. Mr. Kapish: Or knock this down at least $1,000.
Mr. Geiger: You have to realize you are paying for signs, posts, hardware, and installs.  It is not just the cost of the actual sign there is more associated with this.
Mr. Kapish: I understand that.  Are we good with that?
Mr. Geiger:  I mean if you want me to reach out and see if they can adjust the price.
Mr. Kapish: The signs aren't going up tomorrow anyway so we have time. Let's go to the next one.
Mr. Geiger: Next is change order #7. This is just for the permit fees that they had to pay for the project. This is something that was already part of the project that you guys approved.   This is the cost of the permit fees.
Mr. Kapish: How much is that? Mr. Geiger:  $4,436.79.
Mr. Kapish: Ok so you need a motion to approve that $4,436.79 for the permit fees.

Mr. Geiger: Change order #1 Terrapin Lane. Florida Blacktop is the contractor. This was the additional cost for the change in topsoil and sod. They are an 80/20 mix of topsoil so it will be the same thing BrightView was going to use. You are getting it from Atlas Peat & Soil.  They do a lot of work like that out here. They provide a lot of soil.  The
increase in cost to go to St. Augustine sod for the medians.

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Mr. Kapish:  What do you mean change of sod on the medians to St. Augustine.
Mr. Baldis: It wasn't specified in the bid specs that it was St. Augustine so they bid on roadway sod.
Mr. Kapish: Ok I understand that.  Let's not have that happen again.
Mr. Geiger: Moving forward we are going to spec that out on the plans. All in all, the increase is for $39,174.26. Basically, what they did was they gave you a credit back for what was on the bid sheet already as far as the sod and topsoil went.
Mr. Morgan: What was the credit for the Bahia sod? Mr. Geiger:  About $8,000.
Mr. Kapish: You mean the whole job would have been $8,000.
Mr. Geiger:  The material cost was $8,000.  Bahia sod is much cheaper. Mr. Kapish:  They are still putting down sod so the labor shouldn't change. Mr. Geiger: The labor hasn't.  They only did an increase for materials.
Mr. Kapish:  So, the sod went from $8,000 to $30,000?
Mr. Geiger: No that includes the topsoil. The topsoil went from $25,000 to $44,000. Mr. Kapish: Why?
Mr. Geiger:  Because 80/20 mix topsoil is expensive.
Mr. Baldis: Wasn't the depth changed also in some locations?
Mr. Geiger:  That is not reflective in here.  This is straight material replacement. This price as far as I know is cheaper than what BrightView was coming in at for the same.
Mr. Kapish: We could go to get another price for sod from somebody else. Mr. Baldis: It is cheaper than BrightView's I can tell you that.
Mr. Kapish: I know but you can also get another price. Mr. Baldis:  We can explore it.
Mr. Morgan:  Who is that guy that we used before with sod? Mr. Baldis: IGM we bought off.
Mr. Kapish: Do you want to get a price from him?
Mr. Baldis: Sure, how many pallets is it and the question Iwould have is that going to affect his bid price if we pull that out?
Mr. Geiger: He did ask us not to pull it out if we didn't have because it does mess
with his bid price and everything. Technically they are contracted to do it.

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Mr. Kapish: Well if they are contracted to do it in the original thing then why are we paying this?
Mr. Morgan: It is not going to be done anytime soon.
Mr. Kapish:  We have time.
Mr. Baldis: How many pallets is it?
Mr. Geiger: It is not giving pallets but it is 5,055 square yards.  They priced the sod at $3.83 a square yard.
Mr. Baldis: I am not disputing it.  It is just a lot of sod.
Mr. Pawelczyk:  I think what the Board is trying to do is just make sure since they have time that price is a good price.
Mr. Baldis: What you have to remember  is we have now torn out all the plant
material on both sides of Terrapin so all of that is going to be needed to be replanted and sodded from Turtle Creek to Sample. That is coming too. That is not part of their project so that is definitely something we can go get other prices for.
Mr. Geiger: They also have already spread topsoil so if we are checking other prices, should I also have them separate the topsoil and sod out from this?
Mr. Morgan: I saw topsoil dumped out there.
Mr. Kapish: Idon't think we have any issues with the topsoil.  We just want to check on the sod price.
Mr. Geiger: Ok.
Mr. Baldis:  I think what he is saying is that it is one and the same.  The change order is for the topsoil and the sod.
Mr. Geiger:  If we are not going to approve the change order, I can have them
separate it.
Mr. Baldis: It will be two change orders.
Mr. Kapish: Can we just wait two weeks to get a price for the sod and see what it
is?
Mr. Pawelczyk:  You can coordinate with Dennis and determine what you all are going to bring back.
Mr. Kapish: It may be pretty close to them or the same.

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Mr. Pawelczyk: I would just coordinate with Dennis before the agenda deadline and then just bring it back.  Is that a good idea?
Mr. Baldis: That is fine with me. I will call in the morning. What I am asking is are they going to say we are doing it because it is part of our contract and if you take it out it, effects part of his profits included in this portion of the work.
Mr. Geiger: Yes, that is what they said.
Mr. Baldis: That is where we are heading.  Just clarifying that.  Ok. Mr. Kapish:  Anything else?
Mr. Geiger: That is it as far as the change orders that is on the agenda. So, we approved 5 and 7.
Mr. Kapish: Ok. Anything else Jonathan?  Anything engineering wise?  We will go
down to Field Manager and Manager report.

C. Field Manager
D. Manager
Mr. Baldis:  Creekside and Wiles, I need to put forward additional pallets of sod in the complete the sodding in that area.  That is for $2,274.18.
Mr. Kapish: How many pallets is that? Mr. Baldis:  4.
Mr. Morgan:  Where is that at?
Mr. Baldis:  Creekside and Wiles where we tore all the stuff out.
Mr. Zuccaro: How is that sod priced compared to what we are talking about? Mr. Kapish:  We just need a motion on that.

Mr. Baldis: You have pictures there of a gate that I put out for you to look at to see if it is something that you would consider.  It is from Superior Concrete.
Mr. Kapish: Isn't that the same gate that they put up?

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On MOTION by Mr. Carney seconded by Mr. Pfeiffer with all in favor accepting the proposal from BrightView in the amount of $2,274.18 for sod on Creekside and Wiles was approved.

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Mr. Baldis: It is. I am just trying to move the gate over to Grove and the FPL easement.
Mr. Kapish:  The gate is all rusted, it is going to be sand blasted and repainted
right?
Mr. Baldis: Are we talking about these two new gates or another gate? Mr. Kapish: These are brand new?
Mr. Baldis: These are for the new gates that are missing on the FPL and the one over at the fire lane at the Grove that we had to do.
Mr. Kapish: I am asking are these new gates?
Mr. Baldis: Yes, these are brand new. They are going to manufacture them. They are expensive too. One is $8,000 and one is $7,000. I am just showing you this. I don't have a formal proposal. I asked for the price just so we could talk about it so you know what we are looking at.
Mr. Kapish: Is that the only gate that they have?
Mr. Baldis: I am trying to match. The original idea was that they are all are similar at Tall Cypress. Everywhere we go we are trying to match them. We don't have to decide now. They are going to be onsite. The urgency was to get a gate up at the Grove but they now have put a chain up there so the Fire Department is ok. Our urgency is the FPL easement. Everybody and their brother is going out there so we need to secure that. You don't have to make a decision, it was kind of like to give us something to look at and talk about.
Mr. Carney: Does this swing end to end or swing in the middle? Mr. Baldis:  It is 24 feet.
Mr. Kapish: I don't know long these are and how many feet they are.
Mr. Baldis: One is 24 by 7 and 3 feet high. The other one is 21 by 3 feet high. We can talk to him about what we want to do.
Mr. Kapish: That is one thing about the function and whether it sags.
Mr. Carney: Every time I see those gates, they are like this, those types of gates.
Mr. Baldis: My opinion on the gate especially FPL is the amount of use it is going to take that it should be heavy duty compared to the one that is going to be across the

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fire exit at the Grove which may never be used.   FPL is used non-stop and this gate I don't know how well it is going to hold up.
Mr. Morgan:  The FPL easement by Walmart we are talking about. Mr. Baldis: Yes sir.
Mr. Morgan: Why don't you have a gate that is designed if it is going to be heavy duty that has a wheel and you wheel it back and forth?  The wheel absorbs all the weight. Mr. Baldis: I agree with you.  Something substantial that just can't be messed with.
Mr. Kapish:  What that big single arm and it is on a big heavy post?
Mr. Baldis: Like at Turtle Run Park, they have those across that entrance. Mr. Kapish: I think that would be for heavy usage.
Mr. Baldis: I am bringing this so we can start having a conversation to what do we want to do in these areas especially the FPL easement.  Big problems there.
Mr. Kapish: Skip is right, this thing sagging especially when you have an opening that wide.  Maybe they have a solution to that.  Maybe they put X's across it like this.
Mr. Baldis: I can ask them for other options to do this or we can go to someone who specializes in gates especially the rolling arm. The gate that rolls.  That is more durable than one that everybody is just throwing open so they can drive in. Anyway, just
something to start the discussion.	I turned in three permits for the fencing.	Two got

approved.	One needs to be resubmitted.   That is going to be taken care of.

I had a

question for the Board regarding the fencing on the FPL easement. I got a call from a fence company and this homeowner here in this area was getting ready to put in a chain­ link fence and the city sent them to me. I asked if I could talk to the homeowner who I spoke with today, a chain link fence across their backyard because they are getting a dog. I said well let me talk to the Board tonight because I don't know if their intentions is to put a split rail fence there. If you are going to have a chain link and split rail it might not be something you want to spend your money on. It doesn't affect us, Iwas just giving them a heads up and told them I would ask is this something that the Board is going to consider.
Mr. Kapish: Who house is this?
Mr. Baldis: It is one of these.  I would have to go back. Mr. Carney: What HOA Is that?

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Mr. Kapish: It is the Estates.
Mr. Carney: That is a whole different issue then.
Mr. Kapish:  They are not allowed chain link fences. Mr. Carney:  That is on the HOA.
Mr. Baldis: Ok fine.
Mr. Kapish: If other people want to put fences up ...
Mr. Baldis: I guess the question is if they are going to put a fence up whether it is approved by the HOA or not, are we going to put a split rail fence there too and then there will be double fencing? I am just asking.
Mr. Kapish: Before people start putting up fences and I don't know why you would put a fence on a lake, I would think you would want to see it.
Mr. Baldis: To keep their dog in.
Mr. Carney: They can do whatever they want on their own property.
Mr. Baldis: I am just asking a question. Ok so the pressure cleaning is going to begin on October 7th this year. On the next agenda Iwill have the Redline Iguana contract for you to consider.
Mr. Carney: I had a whole family in my backyard today. There was a half dozen of them running all over the place.  One was ready to jump in the pool.
Mr. Baldis: The other thing I have to just to give you, Igot a phone call from Hotwire who I believe is some type of internet service and saw the FPL poles having the cobra lights being taken off. They called me wanting to know if they could put their equipment on the FPL poles that were remaining. I explained to them that the District is going to remove them all because they thought they were unsightly and we spent quite a bit of money to do that and I don't think you are going to get any approval for it.
Mr. Carney: What is Hotwire?
Mr. Baldis; It is some type of internet connection. I know FPL has a thing where you can't get on their poles but I guess they were looking at it going oh, there is poles there, we will use them now that they are not using them. I said no, they are all coming up. That is all I have. I am sorry that was the field manager under the manager is to whether we wanted to move the time for this meeting from 6:00 p.m. to 6:30 p.m.?  It was
something I was asked to bring up.  So, I am bringing it up.

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Mr. Kapish:  We could try it for a while and see if it works for everybody.
Mr. Pfeiffer: Until I get relocated it works much better for me. I am in Palm Beach, I appreciate it.
Mr. Kapish: We will definitely start at 6:30.
Mr. Baldis:  So, would it be safe to say for the remainder of 2019 we are going to change these meetings.
Mr. Pawelczyk: Haven't you approved a meeting schedule here already for Fiscal
year 2020?
Mr. Baldis: Yes.
Mr. Pawelczyk: You haven't published that yet? Mr. Baldis: I would have to check with Jennifer. Mr. Pawelczyk: It is really up to the Board.
Mr. Kapish:  The City does its meeting at 9:00 in the morning. It might work for everybody.
Mr. Pawelczyk: Anyway, what  I was thinking was if you just motion to keep the
existing meeting schedule except change the time from 6:00 p.m. to 6:30 p.m. through the end of the year.
Mr. Baldis: Through 2019.  I will do that with Jennifer.
Mr. Kapish: You don't have to do it at 6:30 you can do it at 6:15. You don't have to make it the whole half hour.
Mr. Baldis: It is up to you.  I am just following your direction.  You asked for 6:30, I don't care.
Mr. Kapish:  It keeps it semi-early.  Does it work for you John? Mr. Baldis: Leave it at 6:00 and you get here when you can.
Mr. Pawelczyk: You could make your agenda to direct all the administrative stuff to the top of the agenda and that would give John the time to get here. Chris is right, if you set it at 6:30 you can't start till 6:30.
Mr. Baldis: Leave it at 6:00 and we will start when John gets here. That is working. Mr. Carney:  I drove from Miami Beach for 15 years to make it to this meeting.
don't want to hear it.
Mr. Pfeiffer: You did make one or two.

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Mr. Pawelczyk: I think if you were running late you would do the same as thing as today is tell Dennis so Bob, Jonathan and I don't have to get here at 6:00 if we are not going to meet till 6:30.
Mr. Baldis: We can do that. That is not an issue. We will leave it at 6:00 and we can take the agenda out of order.  We can do Supervisors requests and all that and get it all done.  Then we can take care of the updates when he gets here.
Mr. Pawelczyk:  John can also call in.
Mr. Pfeiffer: I only have three homes left then I will probably be in Boca so it will be
better.
Mr. Baldis: Ok that is all I have.

TENTH ORDER OF BUSINESS
Mr. Kapish:  Supervisor requests? Mr. Carney: Nothing Chris thank you. Ms. Karnegis: Nothing.
Mr. Kapish:  John?

Supervisor Requests

Mr. Pfeiffer: Nothing further.  Thank you Mr. Chairman. Mr. Kapish: Lance do you have anything?
Mr. Morgan:  Out by the Grove where the break is, the median going northbound, that light is still out.  A streetlight out still.
Mr. Kapish: When you pass the Grove, it is the first pole. Mr. Morgan: It is right in this area.
Mr. Baldis: Ok.
Mr. Kapish: The fountain in the lake at the main entrance, it looks like some of the lights are out.
Mr. Baldis: We are going to get ready to service them for the holidays.
Mr. Kapish: Somebody  has also messed with all the spouts.   They need to be readjusted.
Mr. Baldis: At the roundabout?
Mr. Kapish: Yes.

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Mr. Baldis: I know the pool guy was there today.  I don't know if he adjusted those

or not.

Mr. Kapish:  They need to be looked at. They are turned this way and trying to get the full fountain effect you want to have them higher.
Mr. Carney:  We have that one light in the preserve area really doesn't shed much light.  Right now, that light does nothing. All the area is dark.
Mr. Kapish: Maybe we should have BrightView take a look and see if he can cut some branches.
Mr. Carney: That whole preserve area in that middle is dark.  Get a light with longer
arms and extend it out a little bit probably would make a difference.  Just an idea. Same fashion, same style just longer arms maybe would make a difference.

Mr.  Kapish: Alright.
meeting?

Does  anybody  have  anything  else

before

we

close

the

ELEVENTH

ORDER OF BUSINESS

Adjournment

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On MOTION by Mr. Morgan seconded by Ms. Karnegis with all in favor, the meeting was adjourned.