MINUTES OF MEETING TURTLE RUN
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT

A  regular  meeting  of  the  Board  of  Supervisors  of  the  Turtle  Run  Community Development District was held on Monday, October 14, 2019 at 6:00 p.m. at the offices of
Governmental Management Services, 5385 N. Nob Hill Road, Sunrise, Florida 33351.

Present and constituting a quorum:
Chris Kapish Lance Morgan Skip Carney Zaida Karnegis John Pfeiffer

Chairman
Vice Chairman Assistant Secretary Assistant Secretary
Assistant Secretary (by phone)

Also present were:

Dennis Baldis Michael Pawelczyk Bob Zuccaro Jonathan Geiger Joe Morera

District Manager District Counsel KCI Technologies KCI Technologies
Sunshine Water Control District

FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS

Roll Call

Mr. Baldis called the meeting to order and called the roll.

SECOND ORDER OF BUSINESS
A moment of silence was held.

Moment of Silence

THIRD ORDER OF BUSINESS
Mr. Baldis led the pledge of allegiance.

Pledge of Allegiance

FOURTH ORDER OF BUSINESS
Mr. Kapish: Any good news Skip?
Mr. Carney:  Yes I guess so.  A lot happening in Turtle Run and everything is looking
good.
Mr. Kapish: They are really down with the Comcast over by you.  Everybody happy?

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Mr. Carney: Mr. Morgan: Mr. Carney:
gushing.

Not too many people are happy, but yes, it is going in. Why aren't they happy, isn't that what they wanted?
You  know they did break a sewer  line a couple nights ago.	It was

Mr. Kapish: Is that why the street was patched up?  I saw that.
Mr. Carney: They were out there to midnight, the City of Coral Springs. They are going to get a nice bill from that. They had the vacuum cleaner pumping all the sand and dirt and then they had to fix it.
Mr. Kapish:  That is why they do all the markings.  Some guy got all upset because of the markings.  He thought they were going to dig up his whole front yard.
Mr. Carney: Well what happens was there was supposed to be like 24 inch sewer lines down on both sides.  They went deep with this one.  They were way down there.
Mr. Kapish: So where is your box going to be?
Mr. Carney: The cable box?  It is right next to the electrical box.
Mr. Kapish: Let the record reflect that John Pfeiffer has joined the meeting by phone.
Zaida do you have anything?
Ms. Karnegis: Comcast is finally here.   That is good news. Mr. Carney: Everybody is happy it is going in.
Mr. Kapish: Lance do you have anything? Mr. Morgan:  No.
Mr. Kapish:  I don't have anything.  I am just glad things are progressing.

FIFTH ORDER OF BUSINESS

Public Comment

Mr. Kapish: Anybody from the public here that wants to comment?  No, ok so we will
move on.

SIXTH ORDER OF BUSINESS

Update	and	Discussion Projects for the Bond

of

Mr. Geiger: I spoke with Stanford today regarding Creekside.  We have been trying to get that approved from Coral Springs engineering. We are having issues with needing an MOT permit and Broward County not wanting to give us an MOT permit. Stanford clarified with the County that we are not working on a road, we just need the MOT permit for Coral
Springs since we butt Wiles for this project.  They got that cleared and he had resubmitted
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to Coral Springs. I called today to see if there was an update on that. I could not get a hold of engineering. So now we are just waiting for engineering approval. We have everything we needed minus Stanford paying that bond the city requires now. Whenever they do approve it, you just have to go in and pay that bond.
Mr. Kapish: And this is Creekside?
Mr. Geiger: This is Creekside. That should be permitted soon. I spoke with our traffic guy today. He is finishing up the last of what he needed to check for Coral Springs as far as eliminating that lane. He said he should have a report done by Thursday so we should be able to submit by Friday pending a QAQC review by our office.
Mr. Kapish: What do you think is going to happen with the elimination of the lane?
Mr. Geiger: He has found enough evidence to be able to eliminate it. He has to basically pitch the analysis to Coral Springs in a way to prove that we are not adding excess amount of traffic onto Wiles Road by eliminating the left turn lane. He just has to play with the numbers a little bit but he thinks it should go over well. He has gone above and beyond what I think he needed to do to be able to prove it to the city but the city Iguess really wanted to see it. They are taking like 300 cars in the morning off the road, what is going to happen at Wiles. He said the only concern was there was going to be a couple hours in the morning Monday to Friday where the traffic is really bad on Wiles. His only concern that he thinks the city might have is the right turn onto 441 from Wiles. He is going to try to make the report that it is a short term thing in the morning and it doesn't happen any other point during the day. Hopefully we should have a permit for that soon and if he gets that in before Stanford gets his permit then we are going to have to talk to Paul Carpenter what we do about revising the plans. I don't know if the review for the city is for after we submit the report. That will be something to keep in mind. I also spoke to him about the flag pole projects. We got the engineering drawings today for the flagpoles from the flagpole company. I am waiting on the survey to update the survey we needed.  They were tasked with today.  They already have that done. They are just waiting for our surveyor to sign it. Stanford should be able to submit all that stuff too for the flagpoles. Hopefully Stanford will be going on some of this work here the next month I would imagine.
Mr. Kapish:  What about the walkway?
Mr. Geiger: The other thing Stanford is still doing for us is the Turtle Creek walkway, there were some landscape comments that I addressed.  I resubmitted I want to say it was

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7th. We are just missing the site plan review. That is Elizabeth Chang's review of the plans and online it says that is not due to the 15th so she has a couple days this week till the system flags that it is not being done. I did call them today to get an update on all our DRC stuff. They did not get back to me on those projects. I did get comments back for lots 55 & 58 wall today.  We did get comments back on that.   I have some stuff to go over and correct.
That is another one where they want to see mitigation for the landscaping coming out behind

all those  people's  homes.

I don't  know  if that  is something  that we  need to talk with

BrightView about or if we need to meet in the field, Dennis you and Chris to go over some of that stuff.
Mr. Kapish:  Do you know what needs to be removed?
Mr. Geiger: There is a lot of trees in the homeowner's backyards along the fence line. Mr. Baldis: What do you mean by a lot?
Mr. Geiger: Fifteen or sixteen trees.  I think one homeowner has like eight trees that has to come out.
Mr. Kapish: What type of trees? Mr. Geiger: Some are palms.
Mr. Kapish:  Palms I don't think that is mitigation.
Mr. Geiger: There is a couple of big palm trees.  There was two Royal palms. Mr. Kapish: This is on lot what?
Mr. Geiger: Between 55 and 58.  I don't know specifically which lot. Mr. Baldis: It would have to be these.
Mr. Geiger:  It is all those little trees in the back but there is quite a bit so Casey Lee's comment was she wants to see mitigation.
Mr. Baldis:  Let's set up a meeting with Casey and we will go over there.  That would be the easiest way.
Mr. Geiger: She doesn't need to see it on the plans. Mr. Baldis: I will be happy to meet her.
Mr. Kapish:  Do you want to take a look at that tomorrow?
Mr. Baldis: Yes I am going to be over there.  I don't know when she is available. Mr. Kapish: Before she gets there, do you want to take a pre-look at it tomorrow? Mr. Baldis: I will be over there at 8:00 tomorrow morning in that area.
Mr. Kapish: Ok.

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Mr. Geiger: That is the only thing that is going to hold that up. I don't know how she wants me to address the landscaping comments so if you can clarify that for me.
Mr. Baldis: I will call her tomorrow.
Mr. Geiger: I checked on the lots 1-4 sound wall DRC today. I had submitted the easement agreements that they were looking for. The intake person at planning and zoning said Elizabeth has not had a chance to look at it yet I guess. I submitted those a week ago so hopefully those are the only two things she needed. I am just waiting on that letter. We have everything ready to go for John at Anzco so the minute I get that letter I am going to let him submit for Track E and for lots 1-4.
Mr. Kapish: The fence Dennis?
Mr. Baldis: The tank was removed behind Marcie Brown's house. The tank was damaged.
Mr. Geiger: I saw the emails.
Mr. Baldis: I told her to get it repaired. They are probably there as we speak. We will have to address that invoice when we get it. She has been extremely nice. She has been living in her house without hot water all weekend and has not complained. She has been a dream.
Mr. Geiger: Terrapin Lane is progressing. Florida Blacktop should be back out there this week. I know that last week they were demolishing that wall at Harbor Island. Half the header curb was in the last time I was out there.   They repaired the curbing in the front.
Mr. Kapish: I was out there actually over the weekend and I walked the roadway. It looked like they cut out the ramps in front of the apartment complex. I don't know if they poured them but they are wrong. They haven't touched any of the other ramps on the Burlington side.
Mr. Geiger: They haven't addressed the north side yet. They told me they were going to come back and do that after they finished the other side. A couple of ramps that they did pour that I did see were correct as far as the FOOT details.
Mr. Kapish: Dennis and I will take a look at that tomorrow and see if it is right or if it is up to the Districts specifications. Again this is something that we need to put in the next roadway project, these ADA ramps and the way they should be done. I don't know if you write it out on the specs or however you do that.
Mr. Zuccaro: There are details or sometimes they are referred to the FOOT index.

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Mr. Kapish:  A detailed drawing is that what you mean? Mr. Zuccaro: Yes.
Mr. Kapish: Because what they have out there now is just not right.  It doesn't look

right.

Mr. Zuccaro: Why don't you guys check it out?
Mr. Kapish: If there is a problem we will notify you guys right away. We will send you a picture.
Mr. Geiger: Send a picture because I know the ones on the south side that they did pour are correct per the FOOT details and specifications. I know the ones on the other side aren't because they did not pour the curbs correctly together.  Some of them just look bad.
Mr. Kapish: Let me ask you a question on the crosswalks. The one by Turtle Creek and the one on Sample Road that goes east and west, they poured the sidewalks in there but they put, they didn't put any yellow lego stuff.
Mr. Zuccaro: The detectable warnings.
Mr. Kapish: Are they screwing those down or they usually pour them in the pour. Mr. Geiger: They might epoxy them.
Mr. Baldis: They are not in.
Mr. Kapish: The reason why I am asking is because is there a spec or a requirement by DOT the way they are installed?
Mr. Geiger: I don't know if they go in after or before they pour the concrete.
Mr. Kapish: I have seen them do it both ways. I have seen them pour it and put them in as they pour and I have also seen them come in after the fact and they screw them down but I don't know if those last very long.
Mr. Geiger: I would have to take a look at the FOOT specs for that. Mr. Baldis: Are you available tomorrow?
Mr. Geiger:  Not in the morning.
Mr. Baldis: I have a window between 8:00 and 9:00 for the fence and it is going to be at least an hour, I'm staying there until it is done so you are looking at 10:30 or 11:00. It may be closer to noon.
Mr. Zuccaro: He is tied up tomorrow.
Mr. Geiger: I have clients till about lunchtime.  I will be free after 1:00. Mr. Baldis: We will look at it and I will call you.
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Mr. Geiger: Ok. I can ask Florida Blacktop.
Mr. Kapish: The ones they did on Turtle Run Boulevard Central, all of those were poured and they put it as they were pouring.
Mr. Geiger: Ok.
Mr. Kapish: It is just confusing seeing the different way they do it unless it is no big deal, I don't know.
Mr. Geiger: Like I said I will have to check with that. They know they are supposed to be there though.  Dennis mentioned the poles are being set.
Mr. Baldis: Three poles were set today. They are hoping to set three to four tomorrow and call for an inspection. We had an issue with the permitting.  The city was very helpful in straightening that out. We had to change electrical contractors but we are back on track and the poles are being installed. I am hoping they are done with Terrapin Lane at the end of the week. That is going to depend on inspections. I have talked to folks in the city expressing we want to open up Terrapin Lane and we are not going to open it up until these poles are in.  Then we will do the paving so they are aware of that. Hopefully that will speed it up.
Mr. Kapish:  Are they going to open it up and pave it after it is already open?
Mr. Baldis: We are not going to pave until the poles are in. That is going to take to at least the end of this week. Then we have to check with Florida Blacktops schedule with the concrete, the sidewalk where the tree is, the trees where the bench area is, is already to be

poured.

They took a lot of roots out of there.   The stump grinding should be completed

today. The new trees have been installed. A lot of stuff has been going on and it has been going very smoothly. We had that little bump in the road with the permit and now that is back in place. I am very confident that we are moving pretty quickly here. Everybody wants to be done including the city.
Mr. Geiger: There was some new broken sidewalk out there it looked like. Mr. Baldis: We knew there was going to be broken sidewalk taking trees out. Mr. Kapish: Are the stumps all ground?
Mr. Baldis: There was a very large stump, maybe the largest stump I have ever seen

in Florida being ground this morning when I was there.

How much they got done I don't

know but they have been working on it.  They will be done soon.   I don't want to say they are complete with that but they were over there this morning working.   Also while we are
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talking about the streetlights, we were able to get the Burlington Coat Factory easement so I have talked to Mark Corlew's group because they landscaped the island where that is going and there is a palm tree there that we are going to have to remove. I asked them if they wanted it and where we could put it for them. I also met with Cypress Pointe this morning and marked the median over here. I am going to have BrightView tear up the landscaping where these poles are going. We are going to cut it out nice and neat so it is not a mess and put the pole in and put it back in for them.
Mr. Kapish: Is the pole going where the stakes were?
Mr. Baldis: It is going to go in that general area yes. I am putting the poles, I asked the property manager to have her guys take off the domes and get them off. We will take the poles and set them over there next to their dumpster. There are three poles that we are taking out.  That has all been set up and ready to go.
Mr. Kapish: So she is going to have them picked up so we don't have to worry about disposal?
Mr. Baldis: No I actually spoke to her about they may use them somewhere else on the property. The globes themselves are in good shape. They are going to salvage what they can I am sure.
Mr. Geiger: We have a couple of things in design we are still working on but as far as open projects and construction are coming up.  Unless you have any questions?
Mr. Baldis: The monument sign on Turtle Run Boulevard and Sample Road they are putting up the stones there. They  are going to start putting up the brick. It has been delivered.  They are all moving along the east side of that.
Mr. Geiger: They bored the utilities last week too, I saw them doing that. Mr. Kapish: What is the update on the FPL easement?
Mr. Baldis: There is no update, they can't get an answer from them but they did do the directional bore under the road so that is there. There is temporary electric so we will be able to illuminate the nativity set and holiday lighting and Menorah and stuff like that. Anzco has made sure that there is temporary electric. That is moving along too. While we are talking about landscaping and decoration, there is some conversation about tearing landscaping out in this area here. Did we want to do that and just leave the oak trees or do we want to wait until we do this brick work? If they are going to come in and put lighting on those bushes I would like to stop them before they do it if we are going to take them out.
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Mr. Kapish: We can light up the trees but we don't have to light up the bushes. would wait to take those bushes out until the roadway is completed because they are just going to put all the material on top of that in the median and we will be doing it twice.
Mr. Baldis: Ok.
Mr. Kapish: Did you have a discussion with Kevin Long about the colors?  Are we doing like the green and red?
Mr. Baldis:  Do you want to go into the Christmas thing because I have designs for the Estate sign now?
Mr. Kapish: Sure.
Mr. Baldis: I talked to Joe Campbell about what we are doing and we talked about putting in a different kind of light in the canopies of the oak trees, a larger bulb which he has been using and he thinks looks better. I talked to him about doing that but we are basically going to go with what we...
Mr. Kapish: What about the color scheme?
Mr. Baldis:  That is subjective.  Whatever you want, you tell me. Mr. Kapish:  A couple years we had white.
Mr. Baldis: We have had all kinds. We have had gold, while, multicolor, we have had numerous kinds.
Mr. Kapish: What do you guys prefer? Ms. Karnegis: I like those trees in white. Mr. Carney: So do I.
Mr. Baldis:  When you say trees, are you talking palms trees? Oak trees?  All the
trees?
Mr. Morgan: The oak trees.
Mr. Kapish: Didn't we do the tops in gold and the wraps white?
Mr. Baldis: We did the palm trees that way.  The palm trees had different color fronds. If you want white lights that is not a problem.   You can go all white and have the blue tree.
Mr. Kapish: Is he using LED lights? Mr. Baldis: That is all they use now.
Mr. Kapish:  You said they are bigger or something?
Mr. Baldis: Different shapes yes.  I asked him to come up with two things.  This is one of them for the Estate sign.  This is the other one.  He is telling with short notice this is what

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they can do. I asked him, I said could you give us something with just maybe lights and wreaths hanging on the wall. Again it is very subjective what the Board's wishes were to see there.
Mr. Kapish: I think both of them look nice.
Mr. Morgan: I would take away the reindeer and candy canes and just do the trees and the bow and the Estates of Turtle Run, the theory being sometimes more is less. Just throwing it out there.
Mr. Carney: I thought less was more.
Mr. Baldis: When we talked about this before I am pretty sure I heard you talking about maybe just putting wreaths here on these walls. I asked him today, could you do something with wreaths because that is what I thought, my personal opinion, this is a little much for that sign.  It is going to look like you are trying to win a competition.
Mr. Carney: You don't need the big things left and right. Mr. Kapish:  Definitely this garland.
Ms. Karnegis: That is nice.
Mr. Carney: The trees are nice in white. Mr. Baldis: It is very simple and classy. Mr. Carney: That is enough.
Mr. Kapish: Do you like the colored bulbs? Ms. Karnegis:  No.
Mr. Carney: I would leave the trees with lights and put wreaths on either side of the Estate of Turtle Run sign and be done with it.
Mr. Kapish:  Make everything colored lights?
Mr. Carney: Make everything white with the exception of the wreaths.
Mr. Kapish: He can do exactly just that. All he has to do it take these down and put the wreaths up.
Mr. Baldis: Yes that is what I spoke to him this afternoon about. Mr. Kapish: Ok.  How much is that?  Did he break that out?
Mr. Baldis: No.  I will get that after Ifigure out what we are doing. Mr. Kapish:  Jonathan do you have everything?
Mr. Geiger: Yes unless you have any questions about any of the projects.

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Mr. Kapish: The wall, if we are doing
are going to get it out of the DRC?

the fencing tomorrow, when do you think you

Mr. Geiger: I can call them again tomorrow and check again. Like I said someone at planning is supposed to check with Elizabeth today to see if she had a chance to review the two easement agreements I sent over.
Mr. Kapish: But then we are still waiting for the, he has apply for the permit. Mr. Geiger: Yes John still has to apply for permits once we get the DRC.
Mr. Kapish: I thought he put the permit into the city not that they are going to look at
it yet.
Mr. Geiger: No he hasn't. He wants to put both in at once. He doesn't want to put one in and then the other. He is going to put both of them in at once so he can just get it all done and he can fast track all at once.
Mr. Kapish: Let me ask you this Dennis, what about a construction fence for the Tract E wall? Are we doing a fence for that one?
Mr. Baldis: I wasn't planning on it. Mr. Kapish:  Is that out in the open?
Mr. Geiger: It is in the open now, the guy doesn't have a fence now. Mr. Kapish: Right.
Mr. Baldis: For something like that Anzco has construction fence that he can put in an area like that if someone wants it. He didn't have enough to do four lots. That is why I went the route I did.  If they want a fence we will put one up.
Mr. Kapish: Ok.
Mr. Geiger: That is only like 40 feet of fencing.
Mr. Baldis: We are going to have to put some type of fencing in that area to keep foot traffic from going into the construction site. I don't know if we need a six foot high but we will see.  You never know, there is a lot of foot traffic there.
Mr. Kapish: Ok.  Is that everything from the engineer? Mr. Zuccaro: Nothing else to report.
Mr. Kapish: I have a question.   The wall behind the school, school wall? We were
going to talk to the utilities?

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Mr. Zuccaro: We are in the process of doing that. We had got a listing of all the utilities. Our other engineer Uritza, she is looking into that and she is contacting those people.
Mr. Kapish: How many utilities are there?
Mr. Zuccaro: There was about ten in the area. What they do is they give you in the general area. It doesn't mean that they are interested in utilizing the easement but we have to do our due diligence and contact them and make sure that they don't have any issues.
Mr. Kapish:  There is only one there.
Mr. Geiger: Yes it is cable but all these utilities have the right to deny or sign the letter or not.  You have to get signoffs from everyone even if the utility is not there.
Ms. Karnegis: I think Comcast is doing something with it right now because they surprised my daughter by being right there in back of the fence.
Mr. Geiger: They are not listed on any of their forms yet for Coral Springs but Coral Springs made me go through Comcast on some of the easement things.
Mr. Kapish: They were working on the school property.
Ms. Karnegis: They were on the school property and they were working in the back
area.
Mr. Geiger: I wouldn't be surprised if they are running line back there since they are putting them everywhere else over in Turtle Run.
Mr. Kapish: It is probably a lot easier for them to put a straight line along the outside of the fence then on the people property.
Mr. Baldis:  You need an eight foot wall.
Mr. Kapish: I don't think Coral Springs will approve that but I think they will do a six. Mr. Baldis: I don't know. I would ask the question. It is for the children's safety.
Mr. Zuccaro: That is it.
Mr. Kapish: Alright we will move onto WAUSAU Tile.

SEVENTH ORDER OF BUSINESS

Update and Discussion from WAUSAU Tile

Mr. Baldis: We have to talk about those colors.	We have that gentleman to call tomorrow when we are out and about.
Mr. Kapish: Ok.

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EIGHTH ORDER OF BUSINESS

Ratification  of  Small	Project

Agreement

with

People's

Choice Pressure Cleaning, Inc.
Mr. Kapish:  The ratification of the small project agreement with People's Choice.  Mr. Baldis:  They started their work.	Every year we do a small project agreement.
You signed it at the last meeting. It wasn't on the agenda.  It is on the agenda this meeting. In the future we are going to be doing three or four dealings with him so we don't have to go through a small project every year and we can lock in a price. He never changes his price anyway but it would be a lot simpler so you just need to ratify that. It has already been signed.  You signed it at the last meeting.
Mr. Morgan: How long are they doing to be in Turtle Run Dennis?
Mr. Baldis: They started a couple of weeks ago. They are very good about coming back. The guys trim the trees and a lot of stuff. I am putting that construction fence in, they cleaned that sidewalk today. They will be done well before Thanksgiving.  The goal is always
to get done two weeks before Thanksgiving.  We are on track, put it that way.

NINTH ORDER OF BUSINESS
A. Attorney

Staff Reports

Mr. Pawelczyk: The only thing I have to report is there are, Dennis mentioned the Burlington streetlighting easement that we finally got them to act on. Thanks to a combined effort, mainly Dennis's staff telling them if they don't sign it they are not getting the street lighting.  That actually worked out really well.   At the same time, you recall you all approved
a fence, the split rail fence on the Burlington property as well.	They signed that easement

as  well.

Now  the  streetlighting  easement  was  approved  in  January  of  this  year  in

substantially final form so there really wasn't many changes to that at all. However the split rail fence easement I don't have any record of that ever being approved by the Board. We did approve it along with some other fencing.
Mr. Pawelczyk: I know it was the intent to move forward with it but I don't think it ever came back to the Board.
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Mr. Baldis: There were issues when we did the easements and everything because it was in the wrong spot, it was all in one and there was five owners. It might have been formally approved through each individual property owner.
Mr. Pawelczyk: Understood. I'm just trying to wrap this up because we want the Chair to sign both today.
Mr. Baldis: Works for me.
Mr. Pawelczyk: We want to get them recorded. I want to take them with me so we can record them. What I intend to do is just get a motion from the Board authorizing the execution of that fence easement and once they are recorded we will bring them back and put them in as part of the record to ratify so they will be part of the minutes. Does the Board have any objection with that?   Otherwise a motion to authorize execution of the split rail
fence easement for the Burlington property would be in order.

Mr. Pawelczyk: Thank you that is all I have.

B.	Engineer - Ratification of Change Orders
1)	Consideration of Change Order #11a - Option #1 or Change Order #11b - Option #2
2)	Consideration of Change Order #13
Mr. Baldis: These are all change orders that you approved at the last meeting.  They weren't on the agenda.
Mr. Kapish: So all you are looking for is a ratification.
Mr. Geiger: We have two new ones on the agenda though.
Mr. Baldis: We are doing one at a time.	Which ones are being ratified? Mr. Geiger: The stack that he has.  She doesn't have them listed on here.
Mr. Baldis: See that is how things get confused. This looks like ratification of change orders and then there is the list underneath them.  That is what that looks like to me and probably to other people that is what we are ratifying. You have to list them. We have to announce what they are and write them down.
Mr. Kapish: I am looking at this and this, is change order #1, this wasn't signed?
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Mr. Geiger: I didn't have A 1A forms prepared last time because we had a bunch of change orders.
Mr. Pawelczyk:  Let me look through them real quick.  If someone could write these
down  that  would  be  great.	This  is  for  Florida  Blacktop  Terrapin  Lane  right-of-way

improvements  contract.

We  have change  order #1 which  you  did approve  at the  last

meeting.  This was for $39, 174.26.  I don't think I have to give the amount.
Mr. Baldis: No you just need the change order.
Mr. Pawelczyk: So, it is change order #1 Florida Blacktop, it dealt with topsoil, sod, grade and an approximate amount of $39,000 you approved it at the last meeting. The next one is Change order #3 which you approved at the last meeting. This was for $1,680 and this dealt with the disposal of the contaminated concrete materials. The next one was Change order #4 also approved at the last meeting for Florida Blacktop and this was in the amount of $69,287.07 for ADA ramps, and additional concrete improvements. Then we have also Florida Blacktop Terrapin Lane roadway improvements contract Change order #6 in the amount $4,267.63.  That was for additional signage.  Finally Change order #10 under
Florida Blacktop contract was in the amount of $5,836.63 for the demolition of the Harbor

Island low wall.

The last one I have is Change order #12 which is also Florida Blacktop

Terrapin roadway improvements at $8,346.63 for the header curb at Harbor Island entrance.
We reviewed these at the last meeting.  I think at this point a motion to ratify the execution of the change orders that we listed would be in order.

Mr. Pawelczyk: Now you can do the new ones.
Mr. Geiger: We have two change orders on the agenda today. The first one is change order #11a and #11b. These are two options for the asphalt. As you are aware the last layer of asphalt on Terrapin Lane that was put down was not tacked properly so when they milled it off we had big chunks come off and road is not technically milled, it is just the old asphalt.   Florida Blacktop has proposed two solutions.  The first one is to level the asphalt
out by putting asphalt down, creating a level surface and then coming back through and

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putting the inch on. Option #1 is $28,000. When they sent this over they cautioned me though that this is their estimate. It is going to depend on how many tons of asphalt it takes to level. They walked and drove the site and this is what Rob came up with.
Mr. Baldis: We talked about this at the last meeting. They are not proposing this. I asked him for, they brought it up and they are not suggesting that this is what we do. I said give me a number so the Board knows what it is. It is astronomical. The discussion at the last meeting that you would even consider, it was for information purposes, it is not a change order.
Mr. Kapish: Let me ask this question. We have done Turtle Run Boulevard. We have done Turtle Run Boulevard Central.  They even did the interior road to the Estates.  So we
have done quite a few roadways and they have all been milled and some of them came out

clean and some  of them didn't  come out clean.

Now I will say this  is that Turtle  Run

Boulevard Central looked pretty much what Terrapin Lane looks like right now. When they laid the asphalt, I'm just telling how I see it, I don't know if I am correct but they have that machine. The machine in other words, if it is a low spot, more asphalts rolls off the machine and the machine actually goes over it and levels it. Then they roll it. It should be pretty smooth just doing that.
Mr. Baldis: Exactly. This is just an option. They are not saying any of this needs to be done. They are saying if you want the most perfect smooth ride to do this, if not you just leave it the way it is and what you are describing is how they would pave it but there may be a few areas that not the normal person would feel but we may know because we know where it is go oh, there is a little bump there.  Neither one of them is necessary.
Mr. Kapish:  They should be able to make it level doing it the normal way.
Mr. Baldis: Exactly.   They are not trying to make more money is what I am getting at.
They are saying this is something that you can consider if you choose to.
Mr. Kapish: I think the key to a lot of this road stuff especially when you see it cracking and stuff like that and coming up, we have had some pieces come up in front of Hidden Lake

before  we  put  the  pipe  underneath  the  road.

Getting  the  asphalt  down  at the  right

temperature and all that kind of stuff from what I have learned from the asphalt guys that did the Sample Road all the way to 43rd they told me that. The key to it is how hot the asphalt is and having the surface clean getting all the dirt off and getting the tack down there so it sticks.
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Mr. Baldis: This is something you have to do. It is just if you want to entertain it, that is the information.  If not, we will just do it the way we have been doing it.
Mr. Kapish: I am glad you brought that up as an option. Mr. Baldis: That is all it is.
Mr. Kapish: Do you guys want to look into it?
Mr. Morgan: I want the roads to be perfect when they are done. We are paying all this money it sounds like to me they are trying to pad their bottom dollar. That is just my opinion. We never had this problem before with all the roadwork we did. It sounds like to me they were low bid and now they are trying to do what companies do all the time by throwing extra work their way. It is just my opinion. I could be wrong. I have never seen a company come back, when they give you an estimate, we agree to that estimate. I want their price to be perfect because our green dollars are perfect. I didn't ask for the below grade price. They asked for whatever it was, $300,000, we agreed to that and now they come back oh yeah well, don't they enter that into their calculations where if there is some subpar work beforehand they might have to put a little more asphalt down. Isn't that in their profit margin somehow?
Mr. Geiger: It is kind of an unknown. They didn't know the road was going to be like
that.
Mr. Morgan: Well they anticipate that so they add a few more dollars per work order per yard of asphalt. I imagine there is some variables in there that they have to count on. In business there is only two ways that I can beat your price. My labor is cheaper. My materials are cheaper.  I want a perfect job. If they can't supply that then they have a problem. We agreed to their contract price. That is the way I see it. I don't know. If I am wrong I am wrong.
Mr. Zuccaro: The bid it on a square yard basis, a certain thickness and that is based on the drawings.
Mr. Kapish: There is a standard of what I understand of just like when you lay tile,
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the tile guy lays the tile and you come in there and you say oh this tile is off, this tile is low
or whatever and they will tell you oh, it is within industry standards the way the tile job is done. Well that goes for everything, a roadway I am sure that it has to be within a standard because first of all it is DOT in the city and everything else in the County there has to be a standard of what a decent job is.
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Mr. Morgan:  They are saying there is going to be some dips in the road here and

there.

Mr. Baldis: No that is not what they are saying at all. Mr. Geiger:  They are laying an inch asphalt.
Mr. Morgan: So they get to where there is a pothole or whatever and that one inch asphalt gets down three inches, is that roadway going to be three inches less there.
Mr. Geiger: I don't think there is any spots where there is three inches. Mr. Kapish:  They fill it in.  The machine should fill it in.
Mr. Geiger: They are putting an inch down. They set the machine to an inch and it levels it an inch. That is the way the machine works. It doesn't use lasers or guides to say fill it this high and then do an inch. That is the point of the leveling that they talked about. It does that for you.  You level it first and then you build on top of that.
Mr. Morgan: Wouldn't leveling be the prep work before you put the inch down? Mr. Geiger:  Yes if you choose to do it.  It is in not in their contract price.
Mr. Kapish: Stanford did our roadway in the roundabout. We had another company do the roadway at Sample to 43rd and Central was Stanford again. When he milled it, it looked the same.  When he top coated it, it is smooth.  That is what we expect.
Mr. Zuccaro: That is what you will get.
Mr. Geiger: Honestly Florida Blacktop, when Italked to Rob about this, the first option he said, you guys don't have to do anything. Like Dennis said it might be something me or Bob or Dennis noticed because we go, that is where that spot is.
Mr. Morgan: We want it perfect. We expect it to be perfect. You guys  are the engineers, tell them that.
Mr. Zuccaro: Again they are building roads not watches. There is a certain amount of tolerance.
Mr. Kapish: I expect it to look like Turtle Run Boulevard Central.
Mr. Baldis: It is going to. This has gotten way out of hand. The conversation was you don't have to do this and we said, well give us a price in case they want to consider something. That is all. If we would have said no, we don't want a price, we wouldn't have any of these conversations.  There is too much information.
Mr. Zuccaro: I think overall their performance has been very good. We have been very happy with them.
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Mr. Geiger: We will discard Change order #11 then. Mr. Kapish: As long as they fix those ADA ramps.
Mr. Geiger:  We are going to walk through it before the job is over.
Mr. Kapish: The other thing is while we are still talking about this, the asphalt on the other side of the curbing in front of Park Place Apartments.
Mr. Geiger: That is what the next change order is all about.
Mr. Kapish: Where that crosswalk is when they bid the road and this shouldn't be a change order, when they bid the road the road includes crosswalks because the crosswalks are in the right-of-way.  Am I right?
Mr. Geiger: Yes. I think the idea was they weren't taking that header curb out.
Mr. Kapish: I understand that but the asphalt where you took the valley gutter out or not the asphalt on the inside of the valley gutter between the valley gutter and the crosswalk is a right-of-way. They should have milled all that regardless of whether you took the valley gutter out or not.
Mr. Geiger: I don't know if our plan showed that because we didn't take the valley gutter out we kept the milling on the roadway.
Mr. Baldis: Which location are you talking about? Mr. Geiger: All three of the entrances at Park Place.
Mr. Kapish: See this. The road ends right here and this is really part of the road. This is not part of the Park Apartments. It is all bumpy and lumpy and the same thing with the next one. That is part of the roadway. It is not that many square feet Idon't think. Maybe you put a square footage on there.
Mr. Geiger: All together there is about 1,200 square feet for the four areas you are asking about.
Mr. Kapish: How much is it?
Mr. Geiger: Well the change order to do the milling and keep in mind they have to get a specialized milling machine so to do all three of those and the extra milling at Wendy's. They  also  have  to  replace  the  stripping  because  that  wasn't  included  originally  it  is
$13,128.33.
Mr. Kapish: That should have been part of the original bidding because you are talking about crosswalks.  This is part of the roadway.  In fact, I don't know even know why this is

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here, maybe that is the way they designed this.  The asphalt is beveled. It is beveled from the top so it drains this way.  You don't need that.  I don't know, you guys are the engineers. Mr. Zuccaro: I think the main thoroughfare goes from edge of pavement to edge of pavement. That is what was shown on the drawings.  If they include this there is a change
order.  You didn't pay for it in the beginning.  It wasn't in that scope.
Mr. Kapish: What I am saying is that it should have been. Anything that is in the right-of-way is part of the roadway.
Mr. Geiger: From what I understand we stopped at the valley gutter because they were going to mill. We weren't replacing the valley gutters at the time so there was no ownage for them to get back in there.
Mr. Kapish: The only thing that you are asking them to do is to go a little further back in the Wendy's entrance because the pavement is all messed up there.  It is not that much, it seems like a lot of money.
Mr. Geiger: It is 1,200 square feet they have to do altogether and this includes, there is about $1, 100 is just the stripping alone that they have to put back between the three
entrances and everything.

Mr. Kapish:

Isn't there  a requirement  now for crosswalks  to  be updated to the

stripping, not just two bars.
Mr. Geiger: Not that I am aware of.

Mr. Kapish:
Mr. Geiger: Mr. Kapish:

Ok.
You installed stripping like that for Broward County. Every intersection on Wiles Road.

Mr. Geiger: Wiles is a different roadway.  It is County.
Mr. Kapish: I don't know.  Do you want to relook at that price? Mr. Geiger:  $13, 128.33.
Mr. Kapish: I think it needs to be done but I would like to see a little bit of discount off price.
Mr. Geiger:  I can talk with them and see if they can lower this. Mr. Zuccaro: Which change order is that?
Mr. Geiger: This is #13.
Mr. Kapish: Alright anything else?
Mr. Geiger: That is it on the change orders.

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C.	Field Manager
D.	Manager
Mr. Baldis: We pretty much covered everything I had during the conversation about the projects.
Mr. Kapish: Ok.  Bring up our guest?
Mr. Baldis: I'm not sure.  You doing a presentation or something?
Mr. Morera:  I am Joe Morera, President of the Sunshine Water Control District. Mr. Kapish: I didn't know if you wanted to say anything or not Joe.
Mr. Morera: In addition to that Iam a candidate for the Coral Springs City Commission in the upcoming 2020 election.  I didn't want to interrupt the meeting.
Mr. Kapish: We are down to the end.
Mr. Morera: I appreciate that.  Thank you.
Mr. Morgan:  Very nice. Thank you for coming. Mr. Morera:  My pleasure
Mr. Morgan: Good luck next year.
Mr. Kapish: Just to say a few words. I met with Joe a couple of weeks ago, talked to him. He is running for Larry Vignola's seat who is termed out I guess. The election is part of the 2020 election cycle. We had a good conversation and I think Joe is going to be a good asset to Coral Springs if he can get the election. He came here on his own and he came here to observe. He is very interested in what we do. From what I understand Joe is very interested in a lot of things that Coral Springs does. You involve yourself with the city quite a bit.  That is good.  I mean too bad we don't have more people like that but you take it above and beyond the Board work. You involve yourself with certain things. You have good discussions and dialogues with the other commissioners and people in the city. Am I correct in all that?
Mr. Morera: Yes.
Mr. Kapish: We are very happy to have you here and am glad that you took the time although the material was kind of boring.
Mr. Morera: All meetings are very interesting to me. Mr. Kapish: Thanks for coming.  Good luck.
Mr. Morera: Thank you.

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TENTH ORDER OF BUSINESS

Supervisor Requests

Mr. Kapish:  Supervisor requests.  Skip do you have anything? Mr. Carney: Nothing thank you.
Mr. Kapish: Zaida?
Ms. Karnegis: Nothing thank you. Mr. Kapish:  John Pfeiffer? Lance? Mr. Morgan: No.
Mr. Pfeiffer:  No. The trees are looking good and keep up the good work.  Thank you. Mr. Baldis: Thank you.
Mr. Kapish: I did have a question for Dennis. I saw Christmas Design is working on the neighborhood to the north on Creekside and 441. They are doing the entrance over there. Now did they give you a timetable of when they are going to be able to come in and the median and the main entrance?
Mr. Baldis: No I really haven't spoken to him about it. He knows that we normally shoot for November 1st. We did this late so I am kind of at their mercy.
Mr. Kapish: Ok.
Mr. Baldis: I have to talk to him tomorrow.
Mr. Kapish: Alright we just need a motion to adjourn the meeting unless anybody has anything else.

ELEVENTH ORDER OF BUSINESS

Adjournment

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On MOTION by Mr. Morgan seconded by Mr. Carney with all in fa	the meeting was adjourned.