MINUTES OF MEETING TURTLE RUN
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT

A special meeting of the Board of Supervisors of the Turtle Run Community Development District was held on Monday, May 24, 2021 at 6:00 p.m. at Coral Bay Recreation Center, 3101 South Bay Dr. Margate, Florida 33063.
Present and constituting a quorum:
Chris Kapish	Chairman
Lance Morgan	Vice Chairman
Skip Carney	Assistant Secretary
Zaida Karnegis	Assistant Secretary
Michael Hohl	Assistant Secretary Also present were:

Julio Padilla Michael Pawelczyk Jonathan Geiger Bryan Mccallum Melissa DeJesus

District Manager District Counsel KCI Technologies
Watermark Construction Tamara Peacock Architects

FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS	Roll Call
Mr. Padilla called the meeting to order and called the roll.

SECOND ORDER OF BUSINESS
Mr. Kapish led a moment of silence.

Moment of Silence

THIRD ORDER OF BUSINESS	Pledge of Allegiance
Mr. Kapish led the Pledge of Allegiance.

FOURTH ORDER OF BUSINESS	Good News
Mr. Kapish: Does anybody have any good news? No good news.

FIFTH ORDER OF BUSINESS	Public Comment
Mr. Kapish: Anybody from the public here? No.

SIXTH ORDER OF BUSINESS	Approval of the Minutes of the
April 12, 2021 and April 26, 2021 Meetings
Mr. Kapish: You guys received a copy of the minutes in your iPad. It is the April

On MOTION by Ms. Karnegis seconded by Mr. Carney with all in favor the minutes of the April 12, 2021 and April 26, 2021 meetings were approved

12, 2021 and April 26, 2021 meetings. If there are any corrections, omissions, clarifications, or anything that needs to be clarified, otherwise we need a motion to approve.

Mr. Kapish: We are going to take the discussion of number 9 to the forefront right now. I am sorry, what is your name?
Mr. Mccallum: Bryan Mccallum.
Mr. Kapish: You are from Watermark, right? Mr. McCallum: That is correct.
Mr. Kapish: That is your company? Mr. Mccallum: Correct.
Mr. Kapish: Ok. What do you chiefly do at Watermark Construction?
Mr. McCallum: I am the general contractor. Mostly we do exterior remodels and new pools, patios, X-docks, pool remodels, pretty much anything exterior.
Mr. Kapish: You are located in? Mr. McCallum: Fort Lauderdale.
Mr. Kapish: Do you have a card? Basically, Tamara Peacock is not here. We wanted to talk about the fountain. We have a fountain that is leaking, both sides, both fountains are leaking pretty much in the same areas. It has been going on since the day we turned the water on which is over six or eight months ago. What we are trying to do is look at a remedy. She has been trying to do that for us to fix it. She mentioned you and said you were going to be out there. I just wanted to introduce you to what is going on. I understand that you went out there with Dennis. Can you tell us what is going on?
Mr. McCallum: Basically I was called out there. To be honest with you, I didn't know I was going to be all this involved. I am a little disappointed, I was told I was coming

out here to do a contract. I did not know I was just coming out here to talk to you guys. We are super busy. I know what we can do, I can fix that fountain, it is not that big a deal. It is not waterproofed. It has leaks in about five different places that I can see on it. It wasn't built by a pool contractor, that is pretty obvious. I don't think there is anything wrong with the design, I just think the execution of the work probably wasn't as good as it could have been. I would have used different products then what they used. They used a lot of rubberized products. I am going to use mostly cement based products. I am going to seal it. We are to have to do a lot of select demolition to get into the part that we need to get to and seal it up. I can't guarantee anything to do with the plumbing or any penetrations they did.  I am going to try and open up what I can and	seal around those the best I can. I have no idea what is structurally sound on it. I will give you a one­ year guarantee on what I do. Within a week you are going to know whether or not my stuff is leaking or not. What I am putting on there has a lifetime guarantee as far as the product itself. If the structure moves or if the plumbing isn't sealed properly, I can't warranty that, but to the waterproof the fountain and take care of basically where the majority of that water is coming from, that really is a lot of work for this type of fountain size.
Mr. Morgan: Bryan, in your opinion, tell us where the fountain is leaking. They are leaking very similar from both sides. In your opinion, how are they leaking?
Mr. McCallum: Well, concrete is like a sponge. You do not actually have to have a hole through it for the water to go through it. If you were to take for example a glass of water, and turn it upside down on top of a piece of concrete and let it sit there, within a few hours it is going to start dripping through that. Part of it is there is exposed areas where there is concrete. There is a lot of seams and a lot of penetrations that were not in my opinion sealed properly. I am not here to judge anybody's work. You asked me to come and tell you if I could waterproof it. Absolutely, without any questions I can likely waterproof it. I use a little bit of a different method then what is on there now. To make sure they have proper adhesion, I am going to make a slurry of glue and concrete. I am going to paint that on the entire inside. I am going to use hydraulic cement in certain places. Quite honestly, when I met with Dennis out there, they had a contractor out there, besides doing work I also do consulting work, and for me to do consulting work, I get paid upfront. I kind of feel like everybody wants me to tell them how I am going to fix it. I have

already given you a quote to fix it, not to give you a consultation. You make that upfront. Do you understand the difference? That is why I am a little bit disappointed in the fact that I am here yet again. This is the fifth meeting I have had, and we are still not in a contract. I see the look on your face Chris. I have been to the fountain four times with my guys, and I met with Dennis, and now I am here, so this is the sixth meeting actually for a $16,000 repair. I know you said that the materials cost about 10 to 15% of what the repair is, that is completely erroneous. The materials cost the majority of what the cost is. Somebody, and I am sorry if it wasn't you, but somebody said in the minutes that the materials were 1O or 15% of the cost of doing the project. The way I am repairing it is more than half the cost of the project.
Mr. Kapish: I never said that.
Mr. McCallum: I apologize. It was somebody else.
Mr. Kapish: Well you said it is leaking in about five different spots. Is it leaking around the edges mostly, or where is the big leakage, but that doesn't matter because the whole thing needs to be waterproofed.
Mr. Morgan: Bryan, you told me over the phone that it was leaking in the back, the front and both sides, basically 360 degrees. There are multiple places where it is leaking.
Mr. Kapish: Don't you have to take, whatever you are doing, don't you have to take out whatever sealer is on top of that?
Mr. McCallum: Like I said, we are going to do some selective demolition. That
means I am going to take out what I think needs to be taken out to seal.
Mr. Kapish: Does that include concrete or brick?
Mr. McCallum: There might be a little bit of some of the facade concrete but nothing you are really going to notice. Once we get there we are going to just keep going until we think we got everything, every area that could have leaked. I cannot tell you exactly what I am going to do until I get in there, but we are going to do selective demolition. I am not going to take the whole thing apart. I am not going to take the cap off. I know people talked about that. Taking that cap off, first of all it is not necessary, and secondly, it would be quite intensive to have to somebody take that cap off and redo it. Once you do that, you are going to get further into the project than you need to be.
Mr. Kapish: How long would this take?

Mr. McCallum: No longer than a few weeks, probably less than that. It really depends. We have to get in there and start working on it. I can't give you an exact deadline.
Mr. Kapish: What other projects have you done like this where a pool was built out
of the CDS block?
Mr. McCallum: That is when pools were built out of CDS block, but back 50 years ago a lot of them were, we remodeled a lot of pools like that. We also do a lot of remodels where we use CDS block and that is not what your problem is. It is just not sealed properly.
Mr. Morgan: You have done a lot of pools or fountains or other things where you
have had leakage or seepage where you have been able to repair them without incident.
Mr. McCallum: I do so on a daily basis.
Mr. Morgan: You told me over the phone that you can pretty much guarantee about 100% the leakage for what you are doing.
Mr. McCallum: I cannot be responsible for the other construction. I can continue to fix everything, but the initial part would be to seal it. I do not know what is going on with the plumbing. I am assuming the plumbing is fine, but I cannot take responsibility for that.
Mr. Morgan: You are pretty much the guy who has been in the business for 25 to
30 years. You know what is going on. When the fountains are leaking identical on both sides, that means both of them have the same problem. You would use the same method on both fountains?
Mr. McCallum: Yes sir, that is correct.
Mr. Kapish: Is a design problem basically because it is the same from fountain to fountain?
Mr. McCallum: I don't know if it is a design problem, I really can't say that.
Mr. Kapish: Does the fountain equipment in there, the lights, the jets or whatever is in there on the floor, that all has to be removed, right?
Mr. McCallum: We are going to work around those.
Mr. Kapish: Is there a way of water pressure testing the pipes to see if there is a
leak?

Mr. McCallum: Yes.
Mr. Kapish: Is that something that you guys normally do?
Mr. McCallum: Yes, again you are asking me questions like I am a consultant, but you are not signing any contracts with me. I don't mean to sound like a jerk, but the last guy that I met with was the builder of the fountain, and he wanted me to tell him how to fix it. I kind of feel like I am getting put together, absolutely there are ways to test the plumbing and there are things that we are going to do when we go there. We are going to do a standard test on the fountain. It is still holding water without using the plumbing and stuff like that, yes absolutely.
Mr. Kapish: Have you seen the report of the leak detection company? Mr. McCallum: It was extremely vague, yes, I saw it.
Mr. Kapish: That is how I felt.
Mr. Hohl: We have a quote from Watermark Construction already? Mr. Kapish: Yes.
Mr. Hohl: I make a motion that we approve the repair of the fountain as far as the leak is concerned with Watermark Construction.
Mr. Kapish: Are you saying that we are going to pay for it?
Mr. Hohl: I say that we approve to have him begin the work. I think there is another motion after that.
Mr. Kapish: Do we have a second?
Mr. Carney:   I think this is the only gentleman that came to the table that has said he can fix the problem. It seems like the way we need to go, and our issue with Tamara Peacock needs to be settled with Tamara Peacock. I second it.
Mr. Kapish: What discussion are we going to have with Tamara Peacock because I didn't know that we were paying for this?
Mr. Morgan: Can you just delay your motion for a minute?
Mr. Pawelczyk: You had a motion and a second, and you are just in discussion.
He can amend it.
Mr. Morgan: Do we have any specific questions or does any of the other Board members have any specific questions how this man can fix it so he can leave, and we can discuss it and make our motions. He is a busy guy. I talked to him on the phone. He

seems like a hard charger. Does any of the Board members have any other questions regarding him repairing the fountain or methods or solutions or the product he is going to have?
Ms. Karnegis: We are not sure where the leak is coming from and it could be
plumbing too. When I was out there looking at it, what surprised me is that the area that we left empty is dry, but on the bottom, it is still moist. Of course, immediately it is like ok, if it is not, could it be the plumbing that is in the back of it that is releasing the water? That is my concern, is it the plumbing?
Mr. McCallum: I can't tell you whether it is or is not the plumbing, but I can tell you that it is leaking from where I am going to fix it first, and in any pool, pretty much any pool, there is always something that is leaking. Yours is leaking bad to the point that it is super obvious.   Usually there is more than one place, it can leak at the lights, it can leak behind the tile, it can leak through the Diamond Brite and the concrete, anything exposed.   There is an endless list of places where it can leak. The place that I noticed that it is leaking the worst is the place that I am going to address. The only reason why I mentioned the plumbing is because obviously I am not addressing the plumbing. If there is an issue with the plumbing afterwards, I can take care of that also, but again I went out there and did a walk-around on it without any really extensive, and doing our testing and stuff. Typically in construction, and I am sure that was permitted when it was built, they put a manifold, or they pressurize the plumbing. If the plumbing doesn't hold pressure, then obviously it doesn't pass the inspection. I am assuming all that was done. The only thing I am saying is because I do not know the fountain personally, I didn't build it, I am not willing to take responsibility for that part. I would say that there is better than average chance that when I'm done with this, it is going to be fine. I only mentioned that because I just wanted you guys to know that there are other places where it can leak, but I am fixing where it is obviously leaking.
Mr. Morgan: Tell them more about the dangers of not fixing it. You used some terms that I didn't understand.
Mr. McCallum: Right now it is probably using a lot more water then you think. That
water is not just running out from underneath the wall, the back, the front, and the sides and from places where we see it, but it is also going down into that slab. It is also water

migrating up into that wall. The rebar that is in there is probably not treated because it would not be typical to treat it, so what happens is when it is exposed to that water, it is going to spall which is basically rusting. When it does that, it expands, it can cause a lot more damage to the fountain. It could cut the life of the fountain down considerably depending on the extensive amount of spalling or whatever is happening with it. Since it is leaking all the way around the fountain, the seal is obviously getting wet. It is not that old, it is not something that happens overnight, but if you continue to let the fountain be saturated all the time, it is kind of like these docks and things that you see, they are wet most of the time and they only last so many years as compared to like a slab that you have around the pool or something like that even though the pools get it wet. It is not exposed to constant water. That can definitely cause it, plus the fact that the water breaks down the concrete. You could have all kinds of different things happening with that. It is just not a good idea. It is not going to happen overnight, but it is certainly not good for the longevity of the fountain. I do not think you would want it to fail quicker than it needs to.
Mr. Kapish: Ok, so we have this motion now that we are discussing, do want to let him leave?
Mr. Hohl: I think we can amend it, but I think we have our answers. I think we found
that company that we need to use.
Mr. Kapish: If you have anything else to say, then go ahead and say it, then you are free to go.
Mr. Morgan: We appreciate you coming.
Mr. McCallum: Ok.
Mr. Hohl: I would like to amend the motion that we approve Watermark Construction to fix the fountain as quoted, but that we also ask Tamara Peacock to cover the cost of that.
Mr. Kapish: Ok. Do we have a second?
Ms. Karnegis: I second that.
Mr. Kapish: Is there any discussion on that?
Mr. Morgan: I have no problem with that, but what are you thinking about as far as what he said?

Mr. Hohl: This is the first guy that I heard that sounds like he is an expert in pool building and repair. Everybody else that we have talked to, they have knowledge of construction, but they obviously are not an expert in pool building. I know people that are, and I have talked to them about this and he sounds like them. I think we will be safe with using this company.
Mr. Kapish: Lance, did he mention the warranty? Mr. Pawelczyk: One year.
Mr. Morgan: He said he would guarantee his portion of the work for one year. Mr. Hohl: The product has a life-time warranty.
Mr. Morgan: This is my observation. Maybe he comes in and he fixes it. I don't think it is the plumbing in my personal opinion, and it is just my observation of how it is leaking. It is more of seepage and he gave that thing, water can go up through your concrete floor if you have pipes underground. If you have a leak, your slab will be cold to the touch or will be wet. What he is talking about in my opinion is kind of what I have said from the beginning, it is more seepage than anything. The water is just penetrating through the concrete. There is a wall there. It's like how a beaver builds a dam. A beaver builds a dam and blocks 80% of the water flow and backs the water up with logs, but water still flows through the dam. The seepage is coming right through the concrete and maybe whatever sealer was put on there before is not adequate. He does seem like a no-nonsense guy to me. He seems like he knows what he is talking about. He has been in business a long time, a little abrupt, but I like that.
Mr. Carney: I was thinking of the rebar, that is serious. The concrete will fall right
off.
Mr. Morgan: I asked him what if we do nothing, and he said that would be your
worst mistake because he called it spalling where the rebar rusts and expands and expands the concrete. That is how you get some cracking and stuff. He explained all that.
Ms. DeJesus: Spalling is like what he said if you see rust or a metal piece extruding
out, it is because there is cracking like he was saying. As it goes, it gets worse and worse and you are going to have failure in your concrete. That concrete isn't structurally sound anymore so then you would have to do more patching with concrete and then you will

have an issue with the new concrete against the existing because they are not curing at the same rate.  One is older versus the new one. Yes, it is more of a cost. Obviously, it is a new wall.
Mr. Morgan: Your expertise as an engineer, maybe not in pools, but what did you
think of his presentation?
Mr. Geiger: I thought he knew what he was talking about. The one thing I am a little concerned about is John Zac insisting he told us they waterproofed that and now I am hearing that it wasn't waterproofed correctly, so it does seem like there is a big disconnect with what the contractor is telling you versus what the expert here is telling you. If all he does is pools and everything, that is the person I would probably trust first and foremost. I would have had someone with that expertise building the pool part of the fountain if I was the contractor and I didn't think I could do it the right way, I think he gave a very well explanation. I think he explained the products he was going to use to you guys very thoroughly. I noticed you asked a question about do you have to remove the existing water sealant and stuff like that, and he had answers for that as well. He was a little impatient, but people are busy, I get it.
Mr. Kapish: The only thing that concerns me is that he wants to work around a lot
of stuff, a lot of that stuff is expensive from Hall Fountains and so I do not know if that is the answer. He is giving us that answer today, but all that stuff from Hall Fountains is very expensive and delicate.
Mr. Geiger: He might want to get Hall involved. Maybe Hall can remove it and put
a cap on it, I don't know.
Mr. Kapish: I do not know the answer to that question, I am just pointing it out. Then of course the other question is, what happens if it doesn't work. We have to be ready for the issue that it does not work. That is a possibility here.
Mr. Morgan: He said it can only be a couple of things. One he explained to us tonight and he said the leak may be a little bit the plumbing. It can only be leaking from so many places.
Mr. Kapish: Hall can check that by checking the pressure.

Mr. Morgan: It can only be leaking from a couple of areas and if he waterproofs it the way he says he is going to, and he is guaranteeing 100% on that. If it is not the plumbing, then what else could it be?
Mr. Kapish: I am just saying that there is a possibility that like anything else, he is putting a sealer in there. I do not know, maybe it's a super-duper sealer, maybe it is more than a sealer. If it does fail, we have to understand that is a possibility. It could fail.
Mr. Morgan: If we are not paying for it.
Mr. Kapish: Well that is the other thing. That is where I am going. Are we willing to pay for something that may or may not work? That is the reality.
Mr. Morgan: This is Tamara's recommendation. This is her guy. She has full trust in him. He gave a presentation. Is this how we want to proceed? I back Mike's motion.
Mr. Kapish: The question is, is Tamara Peacock, is she willing to pay for the repair? Ms. DeJesus:	So, in a previous call with Dennis, and again I am only a representative and I can't speak for Tamara at this moment, but what we had said was if we had a meeting with one designated Board member and your attorney, we would have that meeting and we would discuss this item. We would have that meeting, but not during this meeting without Tamara there and not having your attorney present, and to discuss
this item. We are willing to do that.
Mr. Kapish: Ok, be aware the cascading effect that when Hall Fountains came in and changed that because it didn't work from the original design, we paid for the other items from Hall Fountains. I forget how much that was.
Mr. Carney: $13,000.
Mr. Kapish: All of the other stuff, the sealers and all the other stuff that went into there, either John did for free or we paid for them. It didn't come from Peacock at all.
Mr. Morgan: I think the message we are trying to send to Tamara is she has never given us a fountain that has worked. The waterfalls did not work the way it was designed and now this isn't three years down the road, and we have some leaks. She has never given us a finished product where it has been flawless. We have paid for one repair with Hall Fountains because the water did not flow the way it is supposed to.
Mr. Hohl: That repair actually was because the original design didn't work. The design came from the architect. The redesign we paid for.

Mr. Kapish: The redesign we should not have paid for that.
Mr. Morgan: I agree. Tamara keeps using this term and I do not fully understand it, added value, added value so you should pay for it. If you produced a fountain that worked initially and three or four years in a row, we had to change some things, I could understand the added value because we are repairing that. She never provided a product to use that even worked initially.
Mr. Kapish: It is like buying a car that all the tires don't have any air in, now if you put air in the tire, I guess you have added value to the car, right?
Ms. Karnegis: When she said added value, she explained that we are getting something superior to what she originally had and that was an added value. To me getting added value is we are getting the Cadillac.
Mr. Kapish: The added value is really being a contractor that does pools and a contractor that builds walls. Put them together, you have a nice wall and a nice pool, and we wouldn't have these problems. That would be the added value. Anyway, here we are. Mr. Morgan: I think I can back Mike's motion with the caveat that we talk to Tamara
Peacock and come to some agreement. Mike maybe you can... Mr. Pawelczyk: This isthe first that I have heard of this.
Mr. Morgan: Skip, you are going to volunteer to talk with them? Mr. Carney: I will, yes.
Mr. Pawelczyk: What you are going to do, I am happy to help.
Mr. Kapish: When would this meeting take place with Tamara Peacock? Mr. Pawelczyk: I don't know, this is the first I have heard of it.
Mr. Kapish: Is this something that would take a week to set up? Two weeks? A month? When would this meeting take place?
Ms. DeJesus: We can coordinate to see what time aligns with you, your schedule and Tamara's schedule, as soon as possible and then we will go from there.
Mr. Carney: What is the purpose of a separate meeting?
Mr. Pawelczyk: I am going to answer that. I have been saying this all along. Someone should have been talking to Tamara about this before. I have said this, I have told managers and apparently this hasn't happened because it is my opinion as your lawyer none of this gets talked about in a Board meeting. Figure it out, and bring your

solution to the Board, and if there is no solution, you bring it back to the Board and you say Mike, sue everybody. Sue John Zac, sue Tamara, sue whoever. That is how these things work, and I don't want that to happen because I am a big believer in spending District's money on District projects, not your lawyer. Litigation as you all know, you all have experienced litigation at least one time in your life.
Mr. Kapish: One thing to point out that there is more than one way to fix it. This is one way to fix it, the way he is doing it. I don't know. The fountain that is in our roundabout was not built with block; it was a poured wall. When you pour walls solidly you have a chance of creating a cement pool. If you had all those walls poured solid, then you wouldn't have a problem.
Mr. Pawelczyk: Chris, I agree and that is my point. If there is a dispute, this guy just talked about his consulting fee, you are going to pay an expert $200 an hour to talk to him as to the design, as to the construction and there is going to be a different expert. They are going to have to hire their experts. It is a waste of time in my opinion. It is up to you guys to figure out what you want to do and go do it. You are going to have to listen to somebody if it is not this guys solution or Tamara's solution, we are going to have to go find somebody else to do it but you are going to have to pay for it and the only way to get your money back if there is not an agreement up front, is to file a lawsuit which is no guarantee.
Mr. Kapish: Right., I think we can have that discussion with just the Board alone before the meeting is over or whatever.
Mr. Pawelczyk: You can't do that because if you put it on the record, now you should not have any discussion about that unless you are ready to do something. You should talk about that outside the meeting individually which I have also said before the Board decides what they wanted to do.
Mr. Kapish: Ok we have a motion on the table. We still need to clarify that motion. Mr. Morgan: Well just one last thing. lfwe make a motion and we agree to contract services with this guy, Bryan to fix the fountain, and we agree to pay for it based on what Tamara Peacock is willing to do and Skip can talk to her about, if she knows we are willing to pay for this ourselves, we lose our leverage. Just be aware of that. What incentive

does Tamara Peacock have to fix or do anything if we are going to make a motion to go ahead and pay $16,000 to have it fixed?
Mr. Pawelczyk: Right now the motion is you will hire him if Tamara pays for it. That is the motion.
Mr. Kapish: That is what I wanted to clarify.
Mr. Morgan: I just wanted to make sure.
Mr. Kapish: So basically what was said is that we will contract with this guy if Tamara Peacock pays for it. After that, all bets are off. Then we are back to square one. Do we all agree? All in favor?

On MOTION by Mr. Hohl seconded by Mr. Carney with all in favor, a motion to enter into a contract with Watermark Construction for the fountain repairs contingent on an agreement with Tamara Peacock that she will pay for the repairs was approved.

me.

Mr. Pawelczyk: Melanie, just get in contact with us. Dennis will be in contact with

Ms. DeJesus:  Thank you guys. Mr. Pawelczyk: Thanks for coming.

SEVENTH ORDER OF BUSINESS	Consideration	of  Proposal	for
Extra	Work	at	COD	with BrightView Landscape Services
Mr. Padilla: Dennis wanted to bring back that item at the next meeting. Mr. Kapish: Ok. We will take it off the schedule.

EIGHTH ORDER OF BUSINESS	Consideration of Quote with All
About Pressure Clean & Seal
Mr. Padilla: The proposal is in the agenda. We just need direction or a motion to approve that.
Mr. Kapish: What is this?
Mr. Padilla: It is for the fountain to pressure clean the pavers. Mr. Kapish: I thought People's Choice pressure cleaned them.

Mr. Carney: That is the one that does the curbing and they attempted to do the roundabout. They couldn't get it done properly. All About Pressure Clean & Seal, they were the people that did the sandblast and they went ahead and finished. They are going to pressure wash and seal today. It came out pretty nice by the way.
Mr. Kapish: So this has already been done? Mr. Carney: Yes.
Mr. Pawelczyk: This is a ratification, I guess? Mr. Carney: Yes.
Mr. Morgan: What was that amount? Mr. Pawelczyk: $635.
Mr. Morgan: And the original was how much?
Mr. Carney: I think it was around $1,000, but I think we need to pay a little additional for seal. I do not know what the cost is for that. It is not going to be that much.
Mr. Morgan: So the motion is for $635? Mr. Pawelczyk: Yes.

On MOTION by Mr. Morgan seconded by Ms. Karnegis with all in favor, the proposal from All About Pressure Clean & Seal in the amount of $635 was approved.

NINTH ORDER OF BUSINESS	Discussion	of	Watermark
Construction Regarding Leak at the Front Entrance Feature
(This item was discussed earlier in the meeting)

TENTH ORDER OF BUSINESS	Staff Reports
Attorney
Mr. Pawelczyk: I do not have anything other than to say I will work with Dennis and we will figure out a day whatever works, sometime between now and the next meeting, hopefully get that arranged. Nothing further for me.
Engineer
Mr. Geiger: I noticed there wasn't a bond update on here so I will give a quick update right now. For Terrapin Lane, they are still in the middle of doing the removal of the paver marking. They have some installed. I think they just have to get back out there

to do the stop bars and some of the crosswalk stripping. They did wind up stripping out the missing skip lines that got removed on Sample Road so the last thing on Sample Road is going to be the mill and resurface. I talked to Florida Blacktop today. They have that scheduled at the end of this week so hopefully by the end of this week the Sample Road stuff will be in FDOT's hands to do their reinspection. Terrapin, they are supposed to have that completed this week when I spoke with them. I just have to reinspect that when the stripping goes back in. For Creekside, Stanford had a subcontractor go out there and do the milling that was required. They have milled both the areas that were required by the City. They will be resurfaced tomorrow.   June 10, the final thermo will go in. After that I just have to inspect that for Broward County Traffic and hopefully that will put Creekside to bed as well. With the main entry walls, we did give John Zac the final as-built surveys so he should be getting everything closed out with the City on his end. The only other thing I have is Chris did ask me to look into the Forest Glen wall, I did call Pre-Cast wall systems. They do not do specs; they do not do plans. Even though they have worked on Broward County School property before, all they normally do is provide who they will be sending and how they vetted their employees to make sure they don't have any felonies and all that. They do not actually get involved with the plan preparation or specs or anything. When I asked, they said they could assist as needed but it would not be something that they would take the lead on. They also said they would need to enter into a contract to do any sort of work like that.
Mr. Kapish: Let me interrupt you. How would we answer the questions though?
The one question was where the equipment was being stored.
Mr. Geiger: The school is not asking the question; they need a plan.
Mr. Kapish: I was talking to you about the questions. Where do you get the answers to those questions? The only person that knows that is the contractor.
Mr. Geiger: You either as the designer, you designate an area in the District where material will be stored, or you contract a contractor.
Mr. Kapish: So you guys would say where that is going to be?
Mr. Geiger: Either that or you guys would have to get a contractor on board, and we would have to work with them. I think in this instance with what the School Board is asking, it realistically would be a three-prong attack with Dennis as the manager, and us

as the engineer and contractor trying to work together to see how all this will function together. Like I said, it is not something that KCI normally does, access plans for schools and stuff like that so it might be something we would sub-consult out to. Then the other question would be our design fees, and before Bob and I going to far into it and costing any sort of money, we kind of put a real number together at about $7,000 to $10,000 to do just the redesign. That would include updating any survey. The survey is six years old now. I am not sure if the School Board is going to require that to be updated. That would not include any construction phase services or any sub-consult fees if we need to go to a subconsultant to get required documentation for Broward School Board. That also wouldn't include any permitting.
Mr. Kapish: You said that would be accomplished for $7,000 to $10,000. That would be the just redesign and getting the rest of the plans together on our end. The civil components and the landscape architecture components and then anything obviously that we didn't have to sub-consult out for as far as the access plans, how are we vetting people. We didn't look into this too far. We didn't want you guys incurring fees for us just to kind of trying to figure this out especially when it didn't seem like a big appetite for the project in general.
Mr. Kapish: I understand. It is hard to decide on something if you don't know how
much it is.
Ms. Karnegis: With the plan itself that is not coming from you. That would be coming from a contractor. I would assume any contractor they would already have one in place so they would be coming out with this is how we are going to vet our employees because they have already done all that stuff.
Mr. Geiger: When I spoke with them, they have done School Board work before, but they show up on site with a contract signed ready to go. They normally just have to provide that can legally be on school property.   They told me that normally when they get a contract, everything is already spelled out for them. They have to give very little input about equipment and where they are staging.
Mr. Kapish: This is a little different. We are contracting with them to do something on private property. All we are asking for is an easement.

Mr. Pawelczyk: Because the contractor is going on school property just like the guy who fills the vending machine, the same thing. There is a state Statute that requires that.
Mr. Kapish: And a contractor is ok'd by the School Board to do the work on the
property even though they are not doing it in this case.
Mr. Geiger: You have to realize that they will be solely working on school property. They will not be in the residential area. They will be a foot and a half to put this wall in, but I asked them if there was anyway to install it in a residential backyard? He said no, we need a 30-foot clear path. That easement is exactly what they need so they will be able to move equipment and get in and out. Even though it is a residential property, we are completely on School Board school patrolled property.
Mr. Kapish: Now we know how much you are going to charge us.
Mr. Geiger: That is an estimate. If we get into this and the School Board asks for more documentation, we provided an access plan but it is not exactly what they are looking for and we have to do revisions, it is a rough estimate but it should give you a comfortable feel for at least the civil component. You are looking at, at least$ 7,000.
Mr. Kapish: How rough are you saying? Are you saying you could double that? Mr. Geiger: I wouldn't expect double. When we start getting into this and the more,
we have to do revisions and more that is required by the School Board, the more the price. I think the biggest thing that has to be done is the survey. That would be the biggest extra cost you guys would have. I am only cautioning you that because we have not updated that survey. The City alone is going to require the survey to be updated within a year. I am not sure if the School Board is also going to require that or if the School Board is fine with the old survey. Then when we go to permit with the City, now the City is going to update that as well. It is something to keep in mind with the project sitting so long and the legal requirements for surveys.
Mr. Kapish: So, you need an updated survey, or you don't need an updated survey?
Mr. Geiger: For the City, you definitely will. The City is not going to take a survey
that is more than a year old. That is standard. The School Board might not for us to try to get this easement. If the School Board doesn't need the survey updated, we can try to

get an easement without it, but if they do need it, that will pop out later. I would hate for the School Board not to need the survey and us do the survey anyway thinking the City is going to need and the School Board denying the easement and we paid for a survey.
Mr. Kapish: In the estimate of the $10,000 range, the survey is included? Mr. Geiger: No that is just civil and landscape design fee.
Mr. Kapish: How much is a survey?
Mr. Geiger: I could not tell you off the top of my head. I would have to have our survey manager look at the site and see if he could just update what we do have or if it would have to be a new survey. Sometimes with the older files it doesn't make sense to update them. They are not in the same coordinate system. They are not in the same elevation plane. That is something I can ask about if you would like.
Mr. Kapish: Any information you could give us would help. Mr. Geiger: That is all I have.
Field Manager
Manager
Mr. Kapish: Is there anything that Dennis wanted to tell the Board? Mr. Padilla: I do not have anything.

ELEVENTH ORDER OF BUSINESS
Approval of Check Register
Balance Sheet and Income Statement

Financial Reports

Mr. Kapish: Financial reports. You received a copy of that in your books. Does anybody have any questions, comments, or anything else otherwise we just need a motion to approve?

On MOTION by Mr. Carney seconded by Ms. Karnegis with all in favor, the check register was approved.

Mr. Kapish: The same thing for the balance sheet and income statement. We need a motion for that unless there are any questions.

On MOTION by Mr. Carney seconded by Ms. Karnegis with all in favor, the balance sheet and income statement were approved.

TWELFTH ORDER OF BUSINESS
Mr. Kapish: Anybody have any requests?

Supervisors Requests

Mr. Carney: I have a question for Jonathan. Do you have any other projects closed out other than the ones you just told us?
Mr. Geiger: There is an open permit still with Horsepower for the signposts. They
have been paid and everything. It is just an open permit, so I just have to make sure they close that. They are already done so I will get on their case about getting it closed but other than that, it is just Creekside and Terrapin and the FOOT thing for Sample Road were the only open and pending items. The last one that the City closed out was the front entrance pavers. I don't think we have any other open permits right now or projects really. The only thing on here is the signposts.
Mr. Carney: At one time the project completion for the signposts was three months.
We are now at 2 months and are we getting closer to the end?
Mr. Geiger: For the signposts? We are still waiting on material from the manufacturer. I am not sure how Horsepower is going to do this. I am not sure if they are going to do all the corridors at once or if they are going to piecemeal it out as they get material. I honestly would love to sit down and have a conversation with Dennis and Horsepower. Horsepower doesn't return my calls or emails normally and as the person trying to manage this for you guys outside of Dennis, it is frustrating when I don't know what is going on.
Mr. Carney: Financially that has been the biggest moving target. I think we have
it narrowed down now.
Mr. Geiger: The material cost is all figured out so at this point it is just going to be my time I think and the hassle to inspect and do all the site visits and get it closed out.
Mr. Carney: We are still looking at three or four months then.
Mr. Geiger: I would imagine. They may be able to knock it out faster, I don't know.
I would like to let them, give them a week and see how many they get in.
Mr. Carney: Thank you.
Mr. Kapish: Any other questions? Then we just need a motion to adjourn.

THIRTEENTH ORDER OF BUSINESS	Adjournment

On MOTION by Mr. Hohl seconded by Ms. Karnegis with all in favor, the meeting was adjourned.

ChairmanNice Chairman