MINUTES OF MEETING
TURTLE RUN
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT

A regular meeting of the Board of Supervisors of the Turtle Run Community Development District was held on Monday, July 25, 2022, at 6:00 p.m. at Governmental Management Services, 5385 N. Nob Hill Rd., Sunrise, Florida 33351.
Present and constituting a quorum:

Skip Carney Lance Morgan Chris Kapish Zaida Karnegis Michael Hohl

Chairman
Vice Chairman (via telecommunication) Assistant Secretary
Assistant Secretary Assistant Secretary

Also present were:

Julio Padilla Michael Pawelczyk Patrick Szozda Patrick Burgess Jonathan Geiger Howard Seiler Lynn Kapish
Julia Winfrey telecommunication)

Governmental Management Services District Counsel
GMS GMS
District Engineer Resident Resident
HOA	President	of	Hidden	Lake	(via

FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS	Roll Call
Mr. Carney called the meeting to order, and Mr. Padilla called the roll.

SECOND ORDER OF BUSINESS
Mr. Carney led a moment of silence.

Moment of Silence

THIRD ORDER OF BUSINESS	Pledge of Allegiance
Mr. Carney led the Pledge of Allegiance.

FOURTH ORDER OF BUSINESS	Good News
Mr. Carney: Good news, Zaida, do you have anything?

Ms. Karnegis: Nothing here. Mr. Carney: Michael?
Mr. Hohl: Nothing.
Mr. Carney: Chris?
Mr. Kapish: Nothing.

FIFTH ORDER	BUSIN	Public Comment
Mr. Carney: Public comments,	don't think we have anybody online. Lynn, anything you would like to say?
Ms. Kapish: Not right now, thanks.

SIXTH	OF	SIN	Approval of the Minutes of the
June 27, 2022 Meeting
Mr. Carney: The approval of the minutes for the June 27, 2022 meeting. Can I have a motion to approve, please?

On MOTION by Mr. Hohl seconded by Ms. Karnegis with all in favor, the Minutes of the June 27, 2022, Meeting were approved.

OF BUSIN	hristmas Designers, Inc.
Update
A. Customer Letter
Mr. Carney: Christmas Design, Mike, do you want to talk about that? Julio, would you like to?
Mr. Pawelczyk: We approved the second amendment with COi at the July 11th
meeting that basically changed the scope of services. Management has since received a letter from COi indicating that COi has been acquired by a company called Riley Outdoor, LLC and all the assets, obligations, and liabilities of COi are now held by Riley Outdoor. Julio told me this morning that COi did not yet execute the second amendment we approved a week and a half ago. What we are asking to do now is just to authorize us to update that second amendment to include Riley Outdoor, LLC as the contractor replacing Florida COi, LLC. That is really all it does. It changes the notice provision. I drafted it

already, sent it to Julio a couple of hours ago since this happened today or Friday. To give you some more information, this affects 11 or so Districts of GMS, and yours is the first meeting. I don't think there is going to be a change. There was an indication you can read at the bottom of this letter I think it is in this one or it may be another correspondence from their attorney that indicated that Kevin Long and somebody else with COi would still be there for this holiday season. I think that is good news because of the transition, then you can decide next year what you want to do depending on what the proposals come back as. If I were you, I would want to try to do this like we have been doing early next year after the Christmas season. Remember what happened when ValleyCrest and BrightView with all the changes that take place?
Mr. Carney: Kevin will be there through the end of the year I was told that, and all staff stays in place as they say. That is the three-year thing that we put in place, they will honor that, that is what I was told.
Mr. Pawelczyk: I know Julio is still dealing with Joe Campbell. Mr. Carney: Joe is still there. He is staying.
Mr. Pawelczyk: Does anyone have any questions before I craft a motion for you? I think we are looking for a motion to authorize the inclusion of the new owner, Riley Outdoor, LLC in the second amendment instrument for holiday lighting that was previously authorized at the July 11, 2022 meeting.

On MOTION by Ms. Karnegis seconded by Mr. Hohl with all in favor, a motion to authorize the inclusion of the new owner,

Riley Outdoor, LLC in the second amendment instrument for 1

holiday lighting that was previously authorized at the July 11, 1
2022 meeting was approved.

GHTH	ROF	SIN	Staff Reports
A. Attorney
Discussion of Memorandum on 2022 Legislative Update
Sunshine Law Presentation
Mr. Pawelczyk: I am going to do my best to go through this quickly. The first one is the legislative update. You do have it in your book, and I am going to touch on it, but please if you take it home and you are looking at it because you are really bored and have any questions, you can bring it back to the next meeting. I carry this around for a couple

of months just in case the Board has any questions. Also, we can get you the legislation itself if you are really interested but this does provide a good summary. I am going to go through them one by one. The first one could impact the District if it deals with ransomware incidents, and it affects local governments and state agencies. It prohibits state agencies and local governments from paying ransoms as a result of a ransomware incident. If somebody hacks your computer system from let's say Eastern Europe just as an example, they will tell you I will restore it, but you have to pay me this amount of money. They will send you a code and you can restore your system. This prohibits that from happening and requires you to report it to certain agencies within the Florida government including the Department of Law Enforcement as soon as possible. It basically provides cyber security/ransomware incidents. I think the purpose of the legislation is to help local governments fight this problem together. The second one is a public records exemption. This actually deals with if the Board has any network schematics relating to computer systems or the District does anything regarding our system themselves how they are set up, systems we use, we can exempt that from disclosure as a public record and kind of hide that. It is still a public record but exempt from disclosure. It is just a way of keeping people from finding out what our systems are. I really don't think that is an issue with the District, but like a hospital district or law enforcement or fire department, something like that, that would really cause some problems on the cyber security. The third one we reported on this last year or the year before. The State Constitution was amended in 2018 to prohibit lobbying by certain public officers. This is the legislation that finally came out of that Constitutional amendment. Basically, after you leave office and for six years thereafter you can't lobby the COD Board. Not that you are going to make a lucrative living lobbying the COD Board, but this prohibits you from doing that. It applies to city councilmen and other public officers. You can't go back and lobby your agency for six years. The list of the people that affects is here. It also authorizes the Commission on Ethics to investigate those as ethics violations. Number four I included this for informational purposes. This deals with tax reductions. I think I may have mentioned it at the last meeting or the meeting before when Surfside Condo collapsed, this is the legislation that came out of that, and it basically says that through 2023 if a building collapses or is destroyed and no longer usable, the assessments are removed from the

tax roll, and you won't have to pay your assessments. The owners don't have to pay their assessments. How this affects a bond I don't know. It really won't affect the CDD unless all of Turtle Run was leveled. It would impact some of our Districts that have condo buildings. We don't know what would happen. I think it is a contract, your bond documents and you can't say that those assessments cannot be paid.
Mr. Hohl: Would that affect a business that burns down?
Mr. Pawelczyk: Yes. Unforeseen collapse. Well, I think it was a sudden and unforeseen collapse of a residential building. Actually, it doesn't apply. It only applies to residential. The second part of this is I had this included because it is interesting to all of us. These are the tax holidays that are in number 4. I listed them all for you. If you want to put them on your calendar and save on taxes because you are going to go buy stuff whether it is appliances, disaster preparedness, or baby and toddler clothing. There are some tax holidays in there. For impact resistance windows there is a tax holiday. Those might be of interest to you if you are looking to take advantage of them. Number 5 is another one that is kind of interesting. We don't know how this is going to play out. This legislation promotes the use of floating solar facilities by requiring local governments to allow these facilities as permitted use under certain conditions and for the local government to amend its land development regulations to promote the use of floating solar. I would still think that I don't even know if they could mandate us to allow people to put floating solar in our lakes. If they do we would have to go through rule making to do that. This is just interesting legislation about what is going to happen. I really think it would be awful looking if this were the case. It is new legislation and again who knows what is going to happen? I really think it is more intended for things like wastewater treatment ponds, and abandoned mine areas, as opposed to our small stormwater treatment, but we will see what happens with that legislation as it moves forward and is implemented by local governments. The next one is number 6, this really applies to golf courses, so it is not so much of a CDD item, it deals with fertilizer applications for golf courses. We go to Districts that operate golf courses so that is why we included that in here. It really doesn't impact this CDD. Number 7 and I have talked about this at legislative updates for the last probably seven years. This legislation actually gives the District the option to publish its legal notices on a publicly accessible website of the County in which

it lies instead of in a printed newspaper. When you first read that you think that is going to save us some money, it is not because you have to publish the additional notice anyway of the meetings which we already do. We publish an annual notice. I really don't think this saves any money, but it does give us the option to publish items on the County's website if we choose to go that route. That doesn't mean the County is not going to charge to do this. I think our annual publication of a notice is probably sufficient. This also doesn't answer the question of whether like our public hearing on our budget I think we still have to publish that in accordance with the Statute. I don't think this takes away that statutory obligation. It really just deals with your annual meeting notices I believe. Again, a lot of this we are going to see what happens. A lot of this legislation is adopted without much thought in my opinion as we are all very used to. The next one is number 8, this legislation deals with the financial stability of an agency. If an agency or the District requires a bidder to demonstrate its financial stability during a competitive solicitation process, we are required to accept these documents that are listed in the legislation as evidence of financial stability.
Mr. Kapish: Sorry to interrupt you, but on the screen, it says Julia Winfrey has joined us. Is that a person that is attending this meeting?
Ms. Winfred: This is Julia Winfrey I am the President of the HOA in Turtle Run, Hidden Lake. I will be on mute just listening.
Mr. Kapish: Ok that is fine. Just wanted to bring that to people's attention.
Mr. Pawelczyk: I am going through the legislative update on the agenda. Number 9 in that update, these deal with the service of process applied to the District. It does require if we are sued, the process server must serve the registered agent which is our office. If they can't serve our office after a good faith attempt then they can go and serve the Chair, Vice Chair, Board member and drop down to even an employee of the District or in this case an agent of the District which would be someone in this office. They have to go through this process. It requires the processor to serve the registered agent. Our office should be the first one to know whether or not the District is sued because as you know when there is a lawsuit filed, the clock starts running so whether we have to file an answer or response or we have to make sure management gets it over to the insurance provider, that is important. This just prevents process servers from being lazy and serving

whoever they can find in City Hall or in this case the District. Number 10 really I am just including this in the report, you can look at it yourself, it really applies to the five regional water management districts like the South Florida Water Management District and requires them to develop a list of critical wetlands. Number 11 is back to the tree legislation. Remember we talked about cutting trees and the City of Coral Springs couldn't prevent someone from cutting a tree if an arborist said it was dead or a potential danger. That goes a little bit further and has been amended to clarify that local governments cannot burden a property owner's right to prune, trim or remove trees that are on his or her own residential property if the tree poses an unacceptable risk to persons or property and the property owner possesses documentation from a landscape architect or certified arborist. The legislation defines what an unacceptable risk is and also what documentation is. It clarifies that residential property means like your home, it wouldn't apply to common property or COD property. We still have to go through the process. Number 12 is actually a grant program that goes through the Resilient Florida Grant Program and authorizes DEP to provide grants to cities and counties dealing with State­ wide Flooding and Sea Level Rise Resilience Plans. The bill also authorizes special districts that are responsible for the managing and maintenance of inlets and intercoastal waterways like the Hillsborough Inlet which is a special district or for the operation and maintenance of a potable water facility which would be a water utility, a wastewater facility, an airport, a seaport to include projects for inclusion in this plan. It doesn't affect the COD, but it does indicate that the legislator is trying to address flooding and sea level rise. Number 13, the last one on the agenda is the oldest one. It has been in effect for a while. This one basically dissolves the Disney Special District, Reedy Creek Improvement District, and five others for failure to reestablish and re-ratify their special acts or general laws. As you know this has been reported on substantially in the news. It doesn't affect us at all, but I put it in there.
Mr. Hohl: Where is the Sunshine Water Control District in Broward County? Mr. Kapish: Coral Springs.
Mr. Pawelczyk: Frankly I don't know why like we represent North Springs Improvement District and Coral Springs Improvement District when the legislature required those District to reestablish which means take all the special acts that you have

accumulated and amendments to those special acts and for North Springs it was over several decades we had to re-codify them. You basically make a new charter, an amended or restated document that is presented to the legislature for approval. That is what we did for those two Districts, and if Reedy Creek would have done that, then the Governor would have had to find another way to go after them. That is all I have on the legislative update. Are there any comments on that? Since everybody is still awake, is it alright if I do the Sunshine Law thing now?
Mr. Carney: Go ahead.
Mr. Pawelczyk: Pat Burgess passed out to you just a copy of this local government overview. It is just an overview. We are going to do this really quickly. It is more of a refresher course. Some of the Board members I have talked to have said it is probably a good idea to go through this again and I agree. This is actually on the website for the Florida Attorney General's office. I did email each of you so you can go back and look at it anytime you want. This is the latest version. Pat Gleason who is on page one referenced here she is the foremost authority on Sunshine Law. She actually is legal counsel to a non-profit open government. They put forth a book called the Sunshine Law and open government. It is for sale by the Florida Attorney General's Office. It is also available online. It is about 150 pages, and it has all the information you need. If you search open government, Sunshine Law, Florida Attorney General it will come up on the website and you can delve into the Sunshine Law public records. For this purpose, we are just going to talk about the Sunshine law. We will go to the first page. Sunshine law provides a right of access to governmental proceedings of both state and local levels. In the absence of another statutory exception, it applies to any gathering of two or more members of the same Board to discuss some manner that would foreseeably come before the Board for action. It doesn't apply to what you are having for breakfast, it doesn't apply to whether or not you are coming to the meeting, it doesn't apply to what kind of car you are buying, but it does apply if we are talking about the budget if we are talking about holiday lighting in the District. It doesn't apply if you are talking about holiday lighting in Coral Bay. It only applies if it comes before this Board. That is a quick overview. The next page says that Board members may not engage in private discussions which we know about with each other about Board business and that includes in person, telephone, email, text, or any

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other electronic communication. We have gone over Facebook that God-awful Next-Door app and other means of communication, basically my opinion is to stay off of it. You can be a member of it, but don't comment or discuss and the reason is because if you comment on that you could be inviting discussion from another Board member that happens to be on there, and then you both could be in trouble if that other person replies. You could be in trouble if you are inviting discussion and you are trying to generate discussion amongst Board members because you know they are there. These are hypotheticals and probably stretching. As you guys probably know, I am super conservative about this because I don't want to see you in trouble with the Sunshine. The next one deals with the liaison. Zaida can't use me as a liaison to tell Mike something. That could be a Sunshine Law violation. If she says I want to vote for the extension to the landscape maintenance contract, I can't go to Mike and say, Zaida wants to vote for the landscape maintenance contract. I am violating the Sunshine Law. Zaida is violating if she knew and should know that I am going to tell Mike. Mike may be off the hook unless he is soliciting what Zaida's thoughts are. That is why it is real important to not reply to all on your communications, so it doesn't appear like we are going through a conduit. A good example is a Board member cannot ask staff to poll other Board members to determine their view on a Board issue. That poll takes place right here. The next side shows that there are three basic requirements, and this is just Sunshine Law 101. The meetings must be open to the public, reasonable notice of such meetings must be provided, that reasonable notice is done through requirements of Chapter 190 Florida Statutes when we advertise it and the website requirement which requires us to list our meetings online. Finally, that minutes of the meeting must be prepared and open to public inspection. The next slide says that applies to advisory boards so the City of Coral Springs, it applies to P&Z which advises the City Commission, Planning and Zoning Board. It applies here if you all wanted to set up a committee of residents to advise you. We have to advertise a meeting, which the meeting of residents must be open to the public and minutes must be taken. That is why in my opinion there is no reason to set up a committee. You can get your advice from the residents, or they can come to the meetings. They can send an email to the manager. They can do whatever they want to get their points across, but we don't want to sanction those committees unless we are also prepared to make sure we adhere

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to the Sunshine Law if they are a formal committee or an informal committee that is advising this Board. The next one staff says that staff is normally not subject to the Sunshine Law, but staff committees can be so if you delegate authority to make a decision to a staff committee other than one individual to make a decision whether it is Julio, myself, and Jonathan, that could be construed as a Sunshine Law violation because decision making should take place here. Most of the time we will say Julio, take the lowest bid not to exceed this amount, or Julio, you make the decision not to exceed $25,000 which is fine because Julio is the one making the decision.
Mr. Hohl: But it doesn't preclude us as we have in the past to asking staff to evaluate and report back to the Board.
Mr. Pawelczyk: Correct because then the Board is still making the decision. You are saying report what your findings are?
Mr. Hohl: Right in other words rather than form a committee we just task staff to look at something and report back what are the issues, what we need to do here.
Mr. Pawelczyk: That is what we do all the time. That is normal. That is what really your role as a Board member, one of your roles is. That is why in cities the commission says staff, go find out about this and tell me what I can do with it. Tell me if I can do it, how to do it, etc. The only exemptions to the Sunshine Law in the Florida Statutes and you see that only the legislature can create that exemption by 2/3's vote, this usually isn't a partisan issue, Sunshine Law, it is kind of sacred in Florida, part of the Constitution which is why the protections are there and I would say that most legislatures are in favor of promoting the Sunshine Law is because a lot of it doesn't apply to them. It makes local governments deal with it like us, cities and counties. Board meetings you see that we have the ability to adopt reasonable rules and policies to ensure orderly conduct at meetings. Thankfully we don't normally have that much of a problem with that here but at the same time the Sunshine Law, it does indicate that references cannot ban non­ disruptive videotaping, tape recording, or photography at public meetings because it is in fact public. Probably not going to happen here when we have someone videotaping a meeting, if they do it is fine. Actually, Julio is kind of videotaping it right now. This is something that we don't normally have to implement because we usually don't have a large number of the public attend the meetings but this deals with giving the public the

opportunity to be heard before we vote on an issue. We do have a public comment policy here which is based on Statute 286.0114 and that says before we take a vote, if a member of the public wants to comment, they can make their comment. It doesn't mean they can ask questions and deserve an answer, but they can give us their comment. That is the purpose of the public comment and the Sunshine Law, we don't have to answer their questions, or you don't. In fact, we might not have the answers but as a Board member, you might choose well, maybe we should have that answer before we vote, but that is the decision you all make as elected officials. We are not prohibited from maintaining orderly conduct and proper decorum in a public meeting which I think for the most part we have all tried to give. The last one is penalties and I have mentioned this before. There are civil penalties, there is a commission on ethics through the civil penalty phase and there are also criminal penalties which are rare but possible and suspension or removal of office. Usually, that takes something pretty egregious because only the Governor can take such action. The rest of this slide show does deal with public records which I don't think we need to discuss. I am not going to waste time on it. Please if you have any questions on Sunshine Law or public records, I am happy to answer them either now or as you know any time.
Mr. Carney; Good thank you. This is an exercise we should put on the docket once a year.
Mr. Pawelczyk: Maybe not once a year but maybe just every time we get a new Board member to go through it. When you fill out your Form 1 there is a provision there that says I confirm that I have been trained on some sort of public official training which includes Sunshine Law and public records. Special District Board members are not required to do that, that is why you always put N/A in that box unless you have already received the training which I don't think you have. If you have gone through it, but if not, you are not required to do it so in that respect we try to remind you. I do agree with Skip and Chris mentioned it as well that we want to make sure that we are just reminding every now and then what the requirements are and typically with new Board members when they come on board. Thank you for indulging me.
Mr. Kapish: Let's say that you have two Board members, and they go down to a vendor to design something.

Mr. Pawelczyk: I am not going to do hypotheticals that we have issues with. It could be a Sunshine Law violation if matters were discussed and two or more Board members are present whether they are on a drive with the landscaper, for fact-finding, whether they are out with a manager, or with a vendor if they discuss matters which need to come before the Board for a decision, yes, that could be a Sunshine Law violation. That is why I always tell each of you, all my boards that you want to avoid the appearance of impropriety. Don't go on drives together, not that it's a violation, but you want to avoid the appearance of a violation. Don't go to a vendor together. Don't go to dinner before a budget hearing where this Board is going to increase the assessments by $100 a unit because it gives the appearance of impropriety. I am using that example because that actually happened in Cooper City. Before the budget hearing, all five commissioners went out for dinner before the meeting. Sun Sentinel found out and it was a big deal. Now whether they discussed matters that were coming before the Board nobody knows, but everybody said how could they not discuss things coming up before this big budget hearing while they are sitting at dinner an hour before the Board meeting. So they had an appearance of impropriety. It got them on the news. I don't think there was a Sunshine Law violation ever determined, but it put them on the news which no one wants to be accused of something they didn't do, so avoid that appearance of impropriety. Does that answer it?
Mr. Kapish: That answers it. I am glad you clarified it and I hope everybody understands that.
Mr. Carney: Landscape drives also?
Mr. Pawelczyk: I think so because the public could think how could you not discuss matters that should come before this Board whether it is the removal of a tree, adding flower beds. How could you not? Whether that takes place, it could. I know when Dennis Baldis was doing the drives there were occasions where one Board member had to go out because of things that were going on and Dennis always instructed them pursuant to my direction to make it fact-finding. You are just driving around here observing. There is no discussion by the Board member as to whether or not this should take place. In other words, the landscaper again is just going to say we are going to put forward a proposal to remove this landscape bed or change it out. That is going to be on your next agenda.

The two Board members present should not be discussing whether or not that is a good idea because that could be a Sunshine Law. It is just avoiding that appearance of impropriety and sometimes it is hard. It is hard when Board members are on HOA's. Our HOA's here are really kind of separated in terms of maintenance and improvements. There is really not a whole lot of overlap between the HOA and the COD but in a lot of our other Districts you have a COD landscape strip and right next to it you have HOA property so there is a lot of overlap when you have a COD Board member who also serves on the HOA Board. You have two on the HOA and two on the COD and they have to figure out how not to discuss COD matters at the HOA meeting. Usually one of them is going to have to step out or say look, I can't talk about this. Let us talk about it at the COD meeting first and vote on it and then bring it to the HOA so the HOA can make a decision. It also doesn't apply, we had this question here before I think before Mike was on the Board, let's say, let's use the roadway project, Turtle Run Central that is completed. You guys can talk about that all you want because it is never going to come before a vote to the Board. If you are talking about potholes or something that the Board has to vote on approval of a contractor to come out and do the work that needs to be discussed here. If you are just talking about how great the project was, it really turned out well, and how great the park looks, then that is not a per se Sunshine Law issue because it is never going to come before the Board for a vote. If you are talking about fixing the fence in the park, yes, that would have to come for a vote for the Board.
Mr. Carney: A lot of questions come up at HOA meetings and they ask District questions. How do you handle those?
Mr. Pawelczyk: All District questions should be referred to the District Manager in my opinion. That is my opinion because the District Manager is not there to answer those questions so the District Manager should really be answering those questions, or we will forward those questions to the District Manager for an answer. Let's say two of you are at an HOA meeting and there is a question what did the District Board do at its last meeting pertaining to the lawn? The District Board did this. That is fine. What is the District going to do about the lawn? You have to wait until that has to be talked about at a COD Board meeting so you will have to bring it back to them or ask the manager and they will give you an answer. That is how I would handle that. You kind of always want to avoid

anything with COD where you have another Board member present, anything that could be construed as a violation. It is tough.
Mr. Carney: They make it difficult not to answer some questions to be honest with you. Chris knows.
Mr. Pawelczyk: If they are asking questions about what the District is going to do, the meeting is right here. Two Board members can't tell an HOA what the District is going to do. They can say the District Board voted on something and the District voted to do this. That is just a fact, not a discussion. If they start saying well, you need to change that, ok well we have to talk about that at a COD Board meeting. It does make it difficult. You know we have Lance, and if his wife is elected, that is perfectly fine, that presents a whole other challenge for spouses when they are the same Board together because they can't discuss business that comes before this Board. It can be done because I have plenty of Districts that have the very dynamic, but if that happens, we will talk to Lance and his wife and make sure they understand that. I actually know Lance and his wife already understand that because we have talked about it with them. That presents a whole other challenge. I have a Board I think I told you there are three Board members from the same household, husband, wife, and daughter all on the same Board because nobody else wants to serve so they went, all qualified, unopposed, and all are on the same Board. That does present a challenge for them but at the same time you would be surprised how easy it is not to talk about it, it is almost an excuse not to talk about things like that and just do it at the Board meeting.
Ms. Karnegis: I think we all know if we have questions that is what you are here
for.
Mr. Pawelczyk: If you have a Sunshine Law question and I know most of you have
taken advantage of that.
Ms. Karnegis: I know I have gone to you.
Mr. Pawelczyk: You pick up the phone or send me an email, Mike, can we talk?
Don't tell me what it is until we talk about it.
Ms. Karnegis: I think we are aware of that if we have questions, and we are not sure because I know with the HOA when you sit on the Board there are homeowners that want answers to certain things, and we can't start. We can't say what the COD is doing.

Mr. Pawelczyk: Like I said, you can tell them what we are doing, you can't tell them what we are thinking about doing or going to do. You can tell them what we have already approved. Here is a good example at an HOA meeting, you have two COD Board members. The CDD's priority list should be this for new improvements. You can say if we already voted on it, COD approved a priority list or in our case, the COD has previously voted to consider developing a priority list once the current projects are done because we did it. There is no vote. If we still have to vote on a new priority list or changes to a priority then that would be something that we can't really discuss here, we have to discuss that at a COD Board meeting. The best advice I can give you is if you are uncomfortable, walk out. I am leaving, I am not comfortable. Then when you come to this Board meeting, and you ask the other Board members can you tell us what was talked about at the HOA meeting? That way it is here. There are also ways to correct Sunshine Law violation if one in fact occurs. You can note the correction, have a Board meeting, and basically recreate what happened and what was discussed to correct the Sunshine Law violation. We don't really ever want to do that because we don't ever really want to admit that there was a violation but in the event, we had to we could. Even though we talked for a long time about it, that is a brief overview of the Sunshine Law. The number of cases out there is astronomical. I am giving you a general overview of it. We can attack individual problems on a case-by-case basis, but I think the more you do the overview the more people understand it. We should never have to discuss it because you know we meet every two weeks so there really is no excuse for not having those discussions here ok?
Mr. Carney: Thank you very much. Ms. Karnegis: Thank you.
B. Engineer
Updates on Turtle Run Signpost Replacements
Estates Paver Entrance Inspection Report & Recommendations
Mr. Geiger: I am going to keep this kind of brief if I can. The update on the signpost replacements, after the last meeting I actually reached out to Mainnor, the signpost rep, they are now saying the frames we are waiting on, the manufacturer is waiting on the powder coating. They gave a two-week estimate. That was on the 18th, so we are about a week out from that. Jill who works with Mainnor said she would update me in about another week and reach back out and see if there is an estimated date of delivery on

those. I was able to get a hold of Horsepower on the phone so Julio Mandela who is running the project right now, they are waiting to do just one mobilization for everything, so they are waiting on the frames. He did say that they have the NOC's signed. The city has requested the copies of the recorded instruments, so they are getting those over to the city and their staff is currently working on extending and renewing the permits that have now lapsed. I have been told that as of today nothing has actually been done with that, but I spoke with him on the 14th of this month. I am hoping in the next week or two I see that the permits have been renewed and the NOC's filed. Once that is done and they get these frames, they said about a week's worth of work, get the frames, put the rest on, and get everything buttoned up for final inspection.
Mr. Hohl: So are we saying that we can potentially have that project done by mid­ August?
Mr. Geiger: If the two-week delivery of frames is correct, yes. Like I said the only thing they really have to do is put the sign frames on and I think there is one post hole that had to backfilled. I think they have already done that though. I am going to keep on top of this with them and the signpost rep, so I know when everything gets delivered, just kind of put them on notice to go ahead and get this done. I think permits were approved in October of last year, so we are going on almost a full year now with this. The other thing I have on the list here is the Estates paver inspection report. I was asked to go look at the entrances to the Estates, and the pavers and see if there was anything I could recommend repair-wise. After taking a look at each of the three entrances I am sure the Board has all seen the condition and everything of the different entrances. There is really not a whole lot of damage and from my inspections and everything it doesn't seem like it is being caused by any sort of undermining or washing out. The cross slopes on the pavers are still as designed. They are crowned in the middle to go out to the valley gutters. I didn't notice any dips that would affect the drainage pattern or anything. I went as far as to also look into the as-builts for the sewer water and storm lines. I didn't see anything that would have been too impactful there. There is some sanitary sewer that runs under the pavers but most of the damage was outside of those areas. You have a small spot over where the pipe is but very localized. At this time I would really just recommend addressing the areas that are kind of deficient here. How does someone pick up the

pavers, and check the base, if there is a problem with them we can obviously get out and inspect them. I don't think there is a need to pull up the whole entrances and redo them. At this time, it is mostly just addressing the areas that are either settled a little bit or there was some shifting in a couple of spots. I would recommend replacing the cracked pavers. It was kind of mentioned previously, I think pressure washing would also kind of bring those back to the condition to a newer-looking paver. There was a lot of weed growth in the one on 41st Street so that might have to be sprayed with weed killer to get the weeds out of there and then sand and block everything back in place. For the most part, the sand was pretty much to the top on most of these. Like I said there were weeds growing out of some of them, but I didn't see anything that was too much worse than it was on Google Earth from 2019. The one on 41st Street, there is quite a bit more damage in that one spot than it was on Google street view but at the other locations, you can kind of see where the damage has been for a couple of years, and it doesn't look like it has gotten worse over the years. I know you guys have talked to the same paver installers before, it may be a good idea to get some pricing to address the areas that are deficient. I know contractors also looked at these entrances from what I understand and came to the same conclusion.
Mr. Kapish: What contractor is that?
Mr. Geiger: I believe Anzco took a look at these at one point. I don't know how long ago that was but that is what I was told.
Mr. Carney: It was brought up at the HOA meeting and also KVC Construction, the same people that just did the walkway there, and when Chris brought it up at the HOA meeting we had to fix them or replace them. That is when I went out and got a quote on repair. I believe Anzco also sent a quote out to you I believe it was on the repair.
Mr. Hohl: In addition to the repairs of the bricks that we talked about, and the pressure wash, would you say that it would be something that maybe we should add to our maintenance with the other pavers we have in the District and sand them once a year?
Mr. Geiger: Maybe not once a year because they are smaller areas and like I said the one over on 65th Avenue, the sand is still up to the top for most of it. I don't think it gets as heavily loaded traffic as you get in the main entrance there. I know at the main

entrance the concern was things were shifting over the years a lot trying to keep that big expensive project looking nice. Probably just look at it as an as-needed basis I would imagine. I figured the pressure washing would make the bricks look nice again which is going to knock some of that sand out. That is why I recommended that. I actually spoke with a paver company as well that we were using for Districts, and they said a lot of times what happens when you start to try to address bigger areas that aren't showing that settlement is you have this traffic that compresses these pavers down over the years and when you start lifting things up you leave yourself to maybe loosening up what is then compressed. We are seeing some small areas that are bad and adding the sand and leveling it off and getting traffic back on that is only going to help. It may not have been compacted right the first time. It happens. When you do density testing you do an area here and an area where you are not getting one every 25 feet. We normally do them once every 100 feet. I think on the main entrance we did three on each side. You can have a small little pocket that might not have been hit with that plate compacter the way it should have been or if they didn't use the right tonnage roller or if the roller broke down and they stopped short or something. Not every year.
Mr. Hohl: I think maybe the reason that it got to this point where it needs some repairs was there was confusion as to who was responsible. Was it the Estates of Turtle Run HOA or is it Turtle Run COD? It sounds like the COD was the one who put the pavers in. Is that correct?
Mr. Carney: How does that work? The COD put the pavers in so do we take long­ term responsibility for those pavers because they are in the Estates neighborhood?
Mr. Pawelczyk: Yes, but I think they are at the entrance to the Estates. I think that was included as part of the license agreement. If they were, then those pavers are technically owned by the City of Coral Springs, but we have a duty to maintain them. The City said if you are going to do it, they are ours, but we have to maintain them.
Mr. Hohl: Do we have any other entrances in any other sub-developments in Turtle Run where we have put pavers in?
Mr. Geiger: Not that I am aware of. I know Hidden Lakes has pavers.

Mr. Carney: They need to be repaired there is no question about it. I know it was talked about at the HOA meeting to repair it with the capital improvement budget that we have over there. I am confused as to whose responsibility should it be to repair.
Mr. Kapish: There is no confusion, what actually happened was back years ago when the pavers were put in they found it convenient that the COD had more money than the HOA. It had nothing to do with who was responsible. It had to do with who had money and the HOA for years has not charged enough money for capital improvements in their own community. The HOA asked the COD if they put the pavers in to improve their community. I don't know that the COD did not necessarily take a life view that they would do that forever. I don't think it is a good idea to have necessarily the COD be in charge of an HOA and the HOA should be able to decide its own fate and its own ideas and let them decide. They have a five-member Board. Now if we want to pay for that then that is up to this Board if they want to pay for it. The HOA has plenty of money to refurbish that as they want to as the Board wants to. I don't know if we should just be the Federal government and just force local governments to do what they want. There is a separation. There should be mutual respect between the different Boards so the Board would all get along and not have somebody come out and decide this is what you are going to do.
Mr. Pawelczyk: You have to see if there is a license agreement, and you have to see if the COD has an easement over it if it is not a city street. If it is not a city street and HOA-owned street.
Mr. Kapish: It is not a HOA-owned street.
Mr. Pawelczyk: You have to check the license agreement.
Mr. Hohl: Do we know who did the agreement with the city to put those pavers in?
Mr. Pawelczyk: It would have been the COD, but you have to check to see if there is a license agreement for whatever area it is. I know we did one for the Estates. Julio has all that stuff.
Mr. Carney: It needs to get done. I know from what you have said we can't spend government money on private property.
Mr. Pawelczyk: That is a city road. You could do it but the only way you could do it in the first place is if we had a license agreement with the City. If we did it without a license agreement with the City, I don't think we have done anything without a license

agreement with them. We just have to check the license agreement to make sure it is up to date.
Mr. Carney: Make sure we do that Julio. Mr. Padilla: I can.
Mr. Carney: It does need to be repaired.
Mr. Hohl: We just need to have staff report back to us on those issues.
Mr. Pawelczyk: Maybe what we could do is take all those license agreements and reference them in your book? I think I have all of them now. In the next month, I will put them together.
Mr. Geiger: I have a bunch of them but if you want to send me a list of what you
have.
Mr. Hohl: I think to take it a step further just like the annual plan I think that your
book should be a living document that as we change things, we add those changes so that it is constantly up to date, and you don't have to go through this task every ten years trying to piece things together. If we keep it current, it is better for the Board too because then we know today what we are dealing with.
Mr. Geiger: We actually do that now. If we get new easements recorded, Mike sends anything, I send it to our survey staff, and they have a living CAD file where they put this all in. This time around it was a matter of cleaning that easement atlas up now that the District has wall easements and everything else overlapping the landscape. There was just more of a task to get that stuff in there. We were missing things. Industry standards are about 30 years, and we were doing this in 2020. It is a living document for the most part.
Mr. Hohl: Ok, it helps us make more informed decisions. Mr. Carney: Very thorough report by the way.
Mr. Geiger: Thank you. I try to do my best for the Board here. Mr. Carney; Good job on that.
Mr. Geiger: I did have one other thing. I did want to give an update on the Cypress Pointe flagpole project. I actually talked to the City today to make sure there wasn't going to be any DRC required for this and Planning and Zoning said you are good to go. No DRC, which is good, it says the District has $600 in fees and a headache of a review.

They are fine just submitting to the Building Department. We are currently getting the survey. The fieldwork was done for me to update the plans to be able to submit this for permitting. I will be updating the civil plan as soon as I get the actual survey. We were using the easement sketch and legal survey from the light pole easement prior. We sent the electrical engineer the project or the consultant service agreement that Mike has provided. I haven't gotten anything back from him yet. I don't know if he has reached out to GMS at all? Julio, have you heard from him?
Mr. Padilla: No.
Mr. Geiger: I told them if they had any questions on the certificate of liability language to reach out to you.
Mr. Pawelczyk: That was July 13th so that was not that long ago.
Mr. Geiger: I know they have to be hard copies so they might be in the mail. I left a message; they didn't call back. I will follow up this week because I would like to get this underway.
Mr. Pawelczyk: Just so you know they don't have to be hard copies; they could be digitally signed as long as you go through the digital signing process.
Mr. Geiger: I can ask. I will talk to them.
Mr. Pawelczyk: It doesn't matter. They can sign it, PDF it, and send the original.
Mr. Geiger: I was able in the meantime to get some pricing on this. Out of all the people I reached out to I actually got pricing back from Three Paving and Sealcoating, we use them as a contractor in Coral Bay before, Anzco actually submitted a bid and Florida Blacktop. I am going to throw Florida Blacktops bid out because it was $32,214.03 which was more than what we estimated .and way off base with the other two bids I received. Three Paving's, their proposal is for $13,101 and Anzco's is for $18,368. The thing with Anzco is he actually did reach out to the City to see what would be required with this. Three Paving is aware that they will have to be the master permits. The electrician and the flagpole company will have to work under whoever the chosen contractor is. They are aware of that, and I informed them that costs need to reflect that because I don't need a change order for now as we are dealing with subcontractors. This is just for information right now. I don't think the Board is going to make a decision tonight. I still have to get to permitting but I did want to bring a more realistic price because I know last time I said

about $15,000, and that is kind of where things wound up. The Board can make a decision if they would like to choose someone tonight I guess, but I would recommend waiting until I get this closer to permitting and pricing kind of changes. I don't know, if 30 days goes by most of these bids are going to have to be redone. I would image we have about another month before I can get something in front of you as far as a finished design to submit.
Mr. Hohl: I think also we need to make sure that the vendors that are bidding are stating the same scope of work so that includes the subcontractors, the permits and all the reviews.
Mr. Geiger: Yes. The issue I run into with these bid forms, and I have to get on the contractors about this sometimes, is we pull everything out kind of line item by line item. Some of the paving contractors with their estimates and their books, clearing is a line item we normally put because it is an FOOT price thing. I can go on the FOOT historical price and get a clearing for the acre. Well, some contractors go when we excavate that first six inches is coming out with the 12 inches of dirt so how do I qualify the six inches of grass I have to take out. They like to do things their own way which I don't like. I like that when I send something out, we get apples to apples. I can ask the next time I present this to see if they can break this down appropriately or at least give a list of inclusions or exclusions. That way we know what everybody is getting into.
Mr. Seiler: What are they planning on doing, just removing all the pavers and putting them down in the street?
Mr. Geiger: This is the flagpoles, so this is over at Cypress Pointe across the street from Turtle Run Boulevard. They are putting in some flagpoles and some brick pavers where there a bit of landscaping. This will be just excavating and laying some pavers down?
Mr. Seiler: What about the pavers in the communities, is that being excavated and redone also?
Mr. Carney: I am not sure what you are referring to? Mr. Seiler: The communities and the potholes?
Mr. Geiger: The Estates entrances. I recommended that they just pick the pavers up that are damaged or settling and recompact. There is not going to be any excavation

that I would call for unless there is a major problem discovered where we see there is a leak or something going on which did appear to be present when I did my inspection.
Mr. Hohl: Just for the point of clarification if the gentleman could identify himself. Mr. Seiler: Howard Seiler.
Mr. Hohl: And where do you live? Mr. Seiler: 4533 NW. 67th Avenue.
Mr. Hohl: Just for those that might be listening to this later they would want to know who the voice was.
Mr. Seiler: So, you just want to lift up the pavers and just replace some pavers.
Mr. Kapish: To answer your question Howard what they are saying here is they want to pick up where the potholes are and fill it in with whatever and put those pavers back and not replace the enter paver area. The pavers have shifted and there are multiple reasons why they have the problem that they have. They actually have the same similar problem that the main entrance had when it developed potholes and stuff like that. However, the main entrance we spent a bunch of money on, and we redid the entire section so the pavers would all match. It is going to be pretty hard to get matching pavers. It is going to look like a patch job is what it is going to look like. I think what really should be done here is to have the HOA involved in the decision-making instead of keeping them out just because the COD has the power to do something. I think it makes a much better community if communities get along with each other's Board versus starting wars. That is my opinion.
Mr. Seiler: But the COD would pay for it?
Mr. Kapish: The COD doesn't really have the money to pay for it. Again a discussion needs to be open between the Board and the HOA Board.
Mr. Seiler: Is there a price difference in changing the whole thing versus just changing the pothole areas?
Mr. Kapish: Again when you go out to get pavers from 15 years later even if you get the same type you are not going to get matching pavers. The HOA even when they do driveway additions, they make sure that all the pavers match but that is a different discussion. This is again nobody seems to be talking with the HOA.

Mr. Carney: I think at the last meeting Jonathan was given instruction to evaluate the situation, right Jonathan?
Mr. Geiger: Correct.
Mr. Carney: It looks like he did a very thorough job.
Mr. Kapish: That is something that you guys asked him to do but again nobody asked the HOA what they want to do. We are sitting here discussing things with Cypress Pointe and we are having a dialogue which improves the relationship between the COD and your condo association, but nobody seems to be interested in improving the relationships among other HOA Boards.
Mr. Carney: We are just basing it on our engineer's recommendations.
Mr. Kapish: What I am saying has nothing to do with that or you, it has something to do with what the Board and Howard, you are on the Board correct? So you are on the HOA Board. Again, nobody is asking the HOA Board anything, they are just dictating. It is what it is
Mr. Seiler: I am sorry, does the Cypress thing take precedence over the potholes? Is that what is going on? Does that new thing take precedence versus holes in the street? Does one take precedence over the other?
Mr. Carney: I think they run side by side. I wouldn't say one takes precedence over the other.
Mr. Seiler: So, they both will be taken care of?
Mr. Hohl: Just to answer your point, the flagpole issue has been discussed by this Board for months. The paver issue was brought up last meeting. We asked for an evaluation by our engineer. You have heard the first report to this Board.
Mr. Geiger: I would like to clarify too I evaluated this from an engineering perspective not necessarily an esthetic perspective because as the engineer, it is not really my call on the esthetics of things. I do realize that as Chris did mention when you do bring in pavers they might not exactly match, but that is not going to cause a car tire to fall off or someone's vehicle to get damaged on the pavers the District put in. Just to clarify, I normally get into the esthetic aspects of these things. That is more up to the Board and the District.

Ms. Karnegis: All we did is we wanted to know what the engineer thinks about it. Is it still useable? Can we still continue with that, and your report is that yes, this is what as the engineer your proposal would be that we go ahead and add additional sands and we can still continue to use it. Then it is up to us to decide whether we accept this, or we are going to go with something else just like you are talking about. Right now that is where we are at right now. That is your recommendation as an engineer.
Mr. Kapish: Well, it seems to be pretty well decided from what I am hearing here is that you are going to go along with Jonathan's recommendation about the engineering part about it. I don't hear anybody talking about replacing the pavers. In fact, it was said that you are not going to pick up the pavers, you are going to just patch the parts. If that is what you did with the main entrance of Turtle Run exactly that way because that would look horrible, and I don't think your residents would be very happy with, which we represent.
Ms. Karnegis: That would be something now for us to discuss.
Mr. Kapish: What I am saying Zaida is that I think there is a lot of people in the HOA that since the level of Turtle Run is above normalcy and all of the other HOA's whether they pay for the pavers or not, they all look nice. Their entrances look nice, they all match. The Estates which is supposed to be the higher-priced homes would not have matching pavers. If what you agree upon not having them match, that is fine, that is your decision to make. I am just saying there is a Board out there representing the HOA and I think there should be a dialogue with them. Now if you don't want the dialogue don't have it, but there should be a dialogue because that is what the COD should be doing.
Mr. Carney: How did you get the instruction to do what you did? At the last meeting you were given instruction to look into it.
Mr. Geiger: I believe the initial instruction came from Chris. Correct me if I am wrong with that, but I believe I was asked by you to look at the pavers.
Mr. Kapish: I am talking about to fix it right, there is fixing something and there is fixing it right. There is two different ways of doing things. You can do things one way and you can do things another way. I just know that in other neighborhoods that don't look as nice as Turtle Run that is what they do. They take pavers from any place they did, and

they throw them down on the ground and it makes the place look worse than what it does if you just left the broken pavers.
Mr. Pawelczyk: From a procedural standpoint you considered a report or a review of a report that Jonathan did that was very thorough on the pavers. Now the Board has to tell staff what the Board wants them to do. Do you want Julio to get prices? Do you want Julio to get to do that? That is what you need to do now. Someone can make a motion to do that. If you want to say, go work with the HOA to see if the HOA will contribute to this project. That is really what the Board needs to do now.
Ms. Karnegis: I agree and that is my point with this is right now this is just the start. This is the first time we are hearing about this so to come in and assume that we are going to do something is an assumption. Right now we are finding out what it is and what your recommendation is and like you said, now we can go ahead and say the next step would be let's go ahead and get prices because if we want to get the HOA involved we need to be fair to everyone. If we do things this way now, we are setting the precedence of something else. You are talking about well, let's just get the HOA to come aboard and maybe we can, we can decide that. We can decide for the HOA to also pay for some of it because it is an improvement to Turtle Run Estates. The District is for overall Turtle Run so we need to be very careful with that. We need to make sure that if we do it this way going forward we will have to do that to the other HOA's.
Mr. Seiler: Why don't you see if there are any pavers out there that match the ones that we have?
Ms. Karnegis: We are just starting right now. This is a starting point.
Mr. Carney: Julio, we need to get proposals for repair and get proposals to replace. This is where we have to start. We have to match them upside by side and see where we are.
Mr. Hohl: They have Jonathan's report to look at as well so if you could provide the vendors with that report so that they can see what the engineer said.
Mr. Pawelczyk: Certainly if the HOA wants to get involved then they can approach the Board and tell them we want to be involved, we want to partner, we want to do this, we want to do that or we want to do it on own, we will pay for it. It really depends on what the HOA wants to do.

Mr. Carney: Ok. So do you want to work on that? Mr. Padilla: Ok.
Mr. Pawelczyk: I would say, I don't want to speak for Julio, but I wouldn't vote to do anything until you ran it by the HOA since we have a Board member here. This is what we are planning to do are you ok with it? It is their community too. It is just a thought.
Mr. Carney: Ok thank you.
Mr. Pawelczyk: So is everybody ok with Julio getting proposals? Ms. Karnegis: Yes, definitely.
Mr. Carney: Yes. Thank you.
C. Field Manager
Quality Site Assessment
ICD Culvert Pipe Inspection Cleaning and Repair Proposal
Discussion of Flagpole Estimate #6046 with A Flag and Flagpole Co.
Mr. Szozda: I am just going to touch on some of the points on the Quality Assessment. All the dead slash pines have been removed. The Nellie Stevens have been flush cut and the area under the pavers that was retaining water has been repaired. The other point I have is the paver work we agreed on two weeks has been completed between NW 66th and Turtle Run Boulevard. If you want to stop by and look at it, it came out really nice. I think everyone has, three proposals. The first one is a natural pine straw for the preserve area. The quote on that was over $5,000. Me and Patrick kind of went through there. There is no need to do the whole preserve. We cut it down to the exterior and it comes out to about 25% of the original proposal so it went from over $5,000 to
$1,438.21. That would pretty much finish up the preserve because all the deal slash pines have been removed. That would dress up the exterior and you would be done with that area probably for quite some time.
Mr. Carney: Can we get a motion to approve?

On MOTION by Ms. Karnegis seconded by Mr. Hohl with all in favor, proposal #7835845 from BrightView in the amount of
$1,438.21 for installation of pine straw in the preserve was approved.

Mr. Szozda: The second proposal is basically the enhancement of the monuments out by Sample Road. We are going to widen the bed and incorporate the lights out there. In order to do that we are going to have to remove, there will be some he puts it as enhancement crew. There will be mulch added to that area, some Podocarpus, and to level things out. We are going to sod, there were a couple areas the stump for the dead sycamore which will be removed tomorrow, and the sod will be for that area by the walkway. There is an area on Creekside too that we are going to put some additional sod in there. The main principle behind this proposal is the enhancement of the monuments by Sample Road, widening the bed, and incorporate the lights out there. We are also going to mulch those Sylvester pines that were trimmed last meeting I believe it was. We cleaned up underneath and we are going to put additional mulch there too.
Mr. Carney: So the overall purpose of this is?
Mr. Szozda: The bed enhancement mainly to incorporate the lights on the monuments on Sample Road.
Mr. Carney: Do we have broken lights out there?
Mr. Szozda: Yes, and they are going to continue to do that, so we are going to widen the beds out there, get some new mulch in there. The lights will be in the beds. Right now, they are sitting in the grass which is kind of a disaster. We are fixing those lights out there. That is already in the process. They added some new lights.
Mr. Hohl: I make a motion to approve the estimate from BrightView as stated. Mr. Pawelczyk: And that is in the amount of $1,298.27.

On MOTION by Mr. Hohl seconded by Ms. Karnegis with all in favor, proposal #7869090 in the amount of $1,298.27 from BrightView for the bed enhancement on the Sample Road monuments was approved.

Mr. Szozda: And the third proposal is basically to clean up the area from the new pavers towards NW 41st Street. The landscape is in bad shape. There is a lot of overgrowth there and we are going to clean up all the bushes that are there now. He suggested clusia which is probably a good option. They are easy to maintain. They don't shed a tremendous amount. You can dictate how high you want them. They are a good

plant in there. This is to just open up the discussion because I believe the area to the east of that will also probably eventually need to be done also. If you want to move forward with this proposal that is up to the Board.
Mr. Kapish: Pat, did you talk about the beetle that is eating the Elaeagnus there?
That is what the problem is. A beetle is eating all that and it is killing it.
Mr. Szozda: I consulted on a couple of things, one being the copper plants also we had mutant bugs on. I don't know if at this point if they are going to be able to be saved. They are in pretty bad shape.
Mr. Kapish: We have ripped a lot of the Elaeagnus in Turtle Run over the years because they are not a pretty plant. It doesn't make a good hedge and I think once you remove that you will probably find a lot of garbage inside those beds.
Mr. Szozda: I am not a big fan of those plants. Mr. Kapish: I think it is a good idea.
Mr. Carney: I like the idea of the clusia.
Mr. Szozda: They are a great plant. It is bug resistant. You can dictate if you want them ten feet. If you want them three feet, you can keep them at three feet.
Ms. Karnegis: Is this for seven or fifteen? It says seven here.
Mr. Szozda: That is seven gallons. Sixty-eight all together will be put in there. The gallons basically is the size of the pot.
Mr. Carney: Is everybody familiar with the location? Mr. Hohl: No.
Mr. Szozda: It is basically across the street, Turtle Run Boulevard between 41st and where we put in the paver sidewalk which is 66th Avenue.
Mr. Kapish: Basically where you put the pavers in it is on both sides.
Mr. Szozda: This is for the right side if you're facing Turtle Run Boulevard running towards 41st.
Mr. Hohl: You are talking about the hedges on either side of that walk-through.
Mr. Szozda: Yes. This proposal is strictly for the right side. There is an additional that is probably going to have to be done on the left, but it is not the equivalent to what needs to be done on the other side.
Mr. Carney: Chris was right, the left side looks as bad as the right side.

Mr. Szozda: I don't disagree, we just didn't get into the discussion. This was kind of preliminary but if we are going to go through with it at the next Board, I can get a proposal for the other side.
Mr. Hohl: How far towards 41st does that go? Does it just go that one yard or beyond that?
Mr. Szozda: It goes beyond the one yard, but it doesn't go all the way to 41st.
Mr. Hohl: So, it is basically the backyard of the house that is right on the cul-de-
sac?
Mr. Szozda: Yes exactly. We walked down there, but it was all pretty bad in there. Mr. Hohl: That sounds reasonable.
Mr. Carney: What do we want to do? Do you want to make a motion to approve?

On MOTION by Mr. Kapish seconded by Mr. Hohl with all in favor, proposal #7869173 in the amount of $6,101.19 from BrightView to clean up the area from the new pavers towards NW 41st Street, remove Elaeagnus and replace with clusia was approved.

Mr. Carney: Julio, the culverts?
Mr. Padilla: We do have a proposal for the culverts for $18,900 for repairs that came up. There is one item.
Mr. Kapish: Lance has now joined the meeting.
Mr. Padilla: Regarding the Industrial Divers inspection, they recommend the cleanup and repair in the proposal. However, there is an option that can be removed from the proposal is to clean out the buildup and sediment. Some of it can probably wait for the next time they can inspect it. We just need direction and a motion to see how the Board wants to move on this.
Mr. Hohl: So you are recommending Site 1- 5 with the omission of the optional part for $5,000?
Mr. Padilla: Correct.
Mr. Hohl: This is all budgeted projects correct? Mr. Padilla: Yes.

Mr. Hohl: I make a motion that we approve the proposal to Industrial Divers in the amount of $13,900 omitting the optional part in the amount of $5,000.
Mr. Pawelczyk: And authorize execution of the agreement to be prepared by counsel.
Mr. Hohl: As stated by our attorney. Mr. Kapish: I wanted to ask a question.
Mr. Pawelczyk: Can we have a second for a procedural standpoint? Ms. Karnegis: Second.
Mr. Kapish: The question is on this optional cleanout of buildup and sediment; how much is the sediment? It is a 72-inch pipe, it doesn't say how much the sediment i.?
Mr. Padilla: I will have to bring it up. It was in the report that was provided.
Mr. Geiger: It says O to 24 inches it says in the report. I think it just depends on where in the pipe from what I understand.
Mr. Padilla: In some areas it will go from Oto 24. Mr. Kapish: I understand that.
Mr. Hohl: Let me go back to staff then to Chris's point is this optional part you are saying it is something that can wait but based on the report you are saying it could be as high as 24 inches of sediment.
Mr. Padilla: In some areas, yes. Mr. Hohl: How big is the pipe? Mr. Padilla: 72-inches.
Mr. Kapish: My question is isn't this is the connection that goes between us, and Coral Bay correct?
Mr. Padilla: Yes.
Mr. Kapish: This is the pipe that runs right along the Cypress Pointe community which in the past when I guess they had an issue with that pipe, they had a problem there with getting drainage. I don't know if that pipe actually has other drains draining into that pipe which I thought it did. There are drainage grates that drain into that pipe also. They had some flooding on their property.
Mr. Padilla: That situation was more on the weir towards the south canal at Coral Bay. So that is where the problem was. It was some grading that blocked a lot of debris,

some fish crates. They were removed in order for the water to continue flowing but it was in that area. If the Board would feel better having it cleaned.
Mr. Kapish: Maybe what it should be is more information. Maybe we need to gather more information and bring it back. Maybe you want to approve everything else that is fine, but I think on this part since the Cypress Pointe is under the impression that we don't spend any money on their side of the street, I think these types of things are things that lead to that issue. I am just saying that we should take a look at it. That is all. You obviously have a diagram there, but I would like to get some additional information.
Mr. Pawelczyk: Just a question to the contractor, why is the contractor saying it is optional?
Mr. Kapish: Who is putting optional on there anyway and not only that, is that coming from the contractor?
Mr. Padilla: Yes, it is.
Mr. Kapish: Why is he saying that because that question needs to be answered. Mr. Padilla: Is there a way we can move forward with the rest and come back to
that?
Mr. Kapish: They must feel to some degree that is why they would put it as an
optional issue.
Mr. Padilla: The reason why I say that is because we have been having some difficulties getting in touch with Alex. He has been out of the country so communicating with him has been difficult so there may be a little delay in the response.
Mr. Carney: I have all the pipes here. One is at 12 inches but every one of them are 2, 4, and 6 inches so I am not sure where that plays, that optional portion?
Mr. Kapish: Like Chris is saying, this is the main pipe that takes all of our water
south.
Mr. Padilla: That would be from the north canal connecting Coral Bay to the school
and Cypress Pointe area.
Mr. Pawelczyk: Maybe we should find out when we last cleaned the pipe? Mr. Padilla: Ok.

Mr. Kapish: For the most part this is probably the most I have seen in a long time as far as cleaning pipes. I don't know that you have to do this today or if we can get some more information.
Mr. Hohl: I would like to withdraw my motion and ask staff to give us a little bit more information to whether or not that optional item is needed.
Mr. Padilla: Ok.
Ms. Karnegis: We definitely need additional information because all it is the buildup; well how much buildup is there?
Mr. Pawelczyk: Does the second agree on the withdrawal of the motion? Ms. Karnegis: Yes.
Mr. Carney: In our packets a few weeks ago, it had all the pipes listed and all the sediment and what the inches were. Nothing stands up to what Julio was saying but what he said is startling up to 24 inches. That is a problem.
Mr. Hohl: Maybe if you could just talk with Industrial Divers and tell them our concerns and if they give you a better explanation on that optional item so that we can better understand.
Mr. Pawelczyk: We will prepare the agreement with the amount not included so the Board can act, and the agreement will be ready the next day or as soon as we get the information so there won't be any further delay.
Mr. Carney: Ok so field manager #3, you want to talk on that one?
Mr. Burgess: So on the agenda, invoice for the flags. Pat and I looked at ordering additional flags, but I know that there was discussion about the color of the flag, the Turtle Run flag. There is a picture of what a flag has. It was pretty pricey anyway. We are trying to figure out do you want to wait?
Mr. Szozda: The other question is how many Turtle Run flags, we try to keep an excess? Should we order because we don't know exactly when the monuments are going to be done with the new stencil so do you want to go ahead and just use what they have for two more flags or four more flags?
Mr. Carney: I think it was mentioned here one time that maybe redesign the Turtle Run flag. It was mentioned in this meeting, but I don't think we are prepared to do that. If you need flags you need to keep them in stock at this time.

Mr. Szozda: What should we get then? Two more Turtle Run flags? Mr. Carney: That is the way I see it.
Mr. Szozda: We need the other flags as replacement flags.
Mr. Burgess: This invoice has 2 USA flags 8 x 12, 4 Florida nylon 6 x10, 4 custom Turtle Run flags that total is $2,815.
Mr. Carney: Do we have a copy of that invoice here? Mr. Hohl: It is in the agenda packet.
Mr. Szozda: So, we would cut down the Turtle Run flags to 2. Mr. Hohl: How many do you have in stock right now?
Mr. Szozda: Zero.
Mr. Pawelczyk; I just want to remind the Board that logo is a registered trademark of the Turtle Run Community Development District. I don't think there was ever an intent, and you can correct me if I am wrong to change the logo that is on Mike's shirt, Skip's shirt, and Chris's shirt.
Mr. Carney: That is our logo.
Mr. Pawelczyk: We are using the Turtle Run outline on the sign because the City wouldn't let us use that, right? I don't think there is any change unless maybe the question is do you still want a white flag, or do you want to redesign the flag?
Mr. Szozda: I think that is kind of the question. Not now, we will utilize what we have but moving forward from here.
Mr. Carney: Order what you need, and we will talk about it at that time.
Mr. Kapish: What you could do if this is that from the ground, this flag is not very visible, and you could probably thicken up everything. You just enlarge it bigger and keep the same font, keep everything the same just make it larger so it is more visible.
Mr. Carney: Make the colors a little more vibrant.
Mr. Pawelczyk: I am not one that has any artistic ability at all, but to me a flag usually doesn't have this much extra space on it. You know what I mean.
Mr. Hohl: It should fill the page.
Mr. Kapish: This is the opposite of less is more. Mr. Carney: Ok, so what do you need from us?

Mr. Kapish: All you have to do is tell the flag company what you want and have them give you a sample. Once you get the sample and bring it back, we can take a look at it and see if it looks better then you go from there.
Mr. Szozda: Ok we can get that done.
Mr. Kapish: I think they could do all that in a short time. I bet you they could do that by the next meeting.
Mr. Szozda: I think they can. We can move forward with that. The flags are in good shape right now. We will get that done, but we will need to be ordering some soon.
Mr. Burgess: Also, the flagpole that has the Florida flag right now across from Cypress Pointe the Mr. Burgess was inaudible at this time, so we have had to have them come out and basically pull down the flag, raise it back up and we need to figure out when we want to replace it. Not a big expense but they have to get on top of it.
Mr. Carney: If it is a repair you need to get it down. Mr. Burgess: Ok, I will get an estimate.
Mr. Kapish: When Dennis was here, we had a policy that a lot of maintenance items that were not that expensive and when I am saying not that expensive, I am talking about something under $1,000 he would go ahead, and the Board gave him the authority to take care of simple maintenance items and not have every little dollar.
Mr. Pawelczyk: There is a resolution that says that.
Mr. Kapish: Instead of discussing everything that is $5 or $100 or whatever it is and waste time when we know, he knew that it needed to be fixed and replaced, otherwise it goes unfixed kind of like the lights that are in the roundabout that have been going on for months. They are unfixed. I don't know why they are fixed, but they are still blinking.
Mr. Burgess: I talked to them, and they said they are going to have a team out there this week.
Mr. Kapish: That would be good because that has been going on for at least four or five months.
Mr. Burgess: When they did the repair there was still blinking lights after the
repairs, so this is their second time coming back to do repairs. I am on top of it.

Mr. Kapish: Did we ever get the lighting in the median changed out? What I see is we have yellow lights and one white light. Did we ever get the new fixtures on the median at the main entrance?
Mr. Szozda: Those are on backorder.
Mr. Kapish: Ok. How long is the backorder?
Mr. Szozda: It has probably been a couple of months we have had those lights. Mr. Kapish: Do you know when you are going to get them?
Mr. Szozda: We can follow up on that but as of last week when we followed up he has not had them.
Mr. Kapish: Ok thanks, Pat.
D. Manager
Mr. Carney: Julio, what do you have? Mr. Padilla: I don't have any other items.

NINTH ORDER OF BUSINESS	Financial Reports
A. Financial Report on Capital Projects, Emergency Funds, Capital Reserve and All Other Financial Issues
Mr. Carney: On capital projects please, Zaida?
Ms. Karnegis: For the ongoing capital projects we still have $193,702. The beginning balance was $813,214 minus the $193,702, engineering fees of $18,600, contingencies $52,000 which equals $264,302. The total capital reserve is $548,913.
B. Approval of Check Register
Mr. Carney: Approval of the check register, a motion to approve, please.

On MOTION by Ms. Karnegis seconded by Mr. Kapish with all in favor, the Check Register was approved.

C. Balance Sheet and Income Statement
Mr. Carney: Approval of the balance sheet and income statement, can I have a motion to approve, please?

On MOTION by Mr. Hohl seconded by Mr. Kapish with all in favor, the Balance Sheet and Income Statement were approved.

NTH ORDER OF BUSINESS	Supervisors  Requests
Mr. Carney: Supervisors requests. Zaida, what do you have? Ms. Karnegis: Nothing.
Mr. Carney: Mike?
Mr. Hohl: Nothing at this time. Mr. Carney: Chris?
Mr. Kapish: Nothing.
Mr. Carney: Lance?
Mr. Morgan: Nothing, thank you.

ELEVENTH ORDER OF BUSINESS	Adjournment

On MOTION by Mr. Hohl seconded by Mr. Kapish with all in favor, the meeting was adjourned.

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