MINUTES OF MEETING TURTLE RUN
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT

A  regular  meeting  of  the  Board  of  Supervisors  of  the  Turtle  Run  Community

Development  District was  held on Monday, April 8, 2019 at 6:00 p.m. at the offices
Governmental Management Services, 5385 N. Nob Hill Road, Sunrise, Florida 33351.

of

Present and constituting a quorum:
Chris Kapish Lance Morgan Skip Carney Zaida Karnegis John Pfeiffer

Chairman
Vice Chairman Assistant Secretary Assistant Secretary
Assistant Secretary (phone)

Also present were:

Dennis Baldis Michael Pawelczyk Bob Zuccaro Jonathan Geiger Marc Jaro

District Manager District Counsel Keith & Schnars Keith & Schnars
M & R Consulting, USA

FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS

Roll Call

Mr. Kapish called the meeting to order and Mr. Baldis called the roll.

SECOND ORDER OF BUSINESS
A moment of silence was held.

Moment of Silence

THIRD ORDER OF BUSINESS
Mr. Kapish led the pledge of allegiance.

Pledge of Allegiance

FOURTH ORDER OF BUSINESS

Good News

Mr. Kapish: Anybody have any good news for us? Ms. Karnegis: We had a good Turtle Run Day.
Mr. Carney:  It was a good weekend at Turtle Run.  Good times,bad times.
Mr. Kapish: Any good news Dennis?

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Mr. Baldis:  Turtle Run Day was pretty good overall.  Nice weather.

FIFTH ORDER OF BUSINESS

Public Comment

Mr. Kapish:  Anybody here from the public?  No.  We will move from that.

SIXTH ORDER OF BUSINESS

Update

and

Discussion

of

Projects for the Bonds
Mr. Kapish:	Number six is update and discussion of our projects for the bonds.
While we are waiting for Bob, Jonathan do you want to start that?
Mr. Geiger: One of the first things is the brick pavers on the Turtle Creek walk are getting done. One, the Turtle Creek path, are you guys interested in doing the traffic pavers like we did on the Passive Park?
Mr. Kapish: Yes'. Because they could be driven over by trucks.
Mr. Geiger: The original design intent was to have 15 to 30 foot concrete sections to get them over that one section of path. Do you still want to do that? We were going to supply a small concrete section here so when the big trucks do come up.
Mr. Kapish: This section here that crosses this area I think, and tell me if I am wrong, but I think it needs to be 8 inches thick. You have your paver sidewalk that comes down to here and crosses here and goes over here. Between here and here since this is a driveway trucks can drive over this. It used to be engineered to be the highest strength as possible.
Mr. Geiger: That is why we originally looked at doing a 15 to 30 foot section of just not doing brick pavers transition at concrete. When these trucks do drive over they are going over your brick pavers.  It is kind of like a little ramp in the middle.
Mr. Kapish: Total concrete driveway.
Mr. Geiger: We will talk to our construction guy about that. My idea is do we want to do traffic graded pavers elsewhere on the paths.
Mr. Kapish: Any pavers we have out there have to have traffic grade. Mr. Geiger: That answers that, thank you.
Mr. Kapish: How thick do we need to have that? Mr. Geiger: The sidewalk or the concrete?
Mr. Kapish: The concrete portion.
Mr. Zuccaro: Typically eight inches.

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Mr. Kapish: That's what I was going to throw out there because I know when they poured areas like intersections where heavy traffic is and where they have the bus turnoffs, isn't there a certain amount of steel that needs to go in there too?
Mr. Zuccaro: Yes.
Mr. Kapish: That is what we need to do then.
Mr. Geiger: As far as this pathway goes we just have to through some grades on it. We are having our surveyor there, they have to do a report for the submittal to DRC, hoping to get that in by next Wednesday. That is eight days turnaround normally from the DRC. I'm assuming since we already did one pathway out there that they have looked at this is cookie-cutter, the same thing, it should not be generating a lot of comments at this point. This is the one that Stanford is already on contract. Once that gets submitted, building permit after that it should be pretty fast.
Mr. Baldis: Just to note this area has already been cleared out already. There shouldn't be any delay.
Mr. Kapish: Ok.
Mr. Geiger:  Spoke to the city today about the walls, the two lots 55 and 56. Mr. Kapish: Can we look at those lots for the walls?
Mr. Geiger:  We have the design work done, cut back to just those two lots. Survey has to do the same thing. We are going to need a report for both of those lots as well an update on the survey for the city. It is going to be the same process for that as long as we have the easements.  I can get that into DRC pretty fast.  Again if it is before Wednesday it is an eight day turnaround.
Mr. Kapish: The easements were signed off.  Dennis collected them. Mr. Baldis: On which ones?
Mr. Kapish:  On these two lots.
Mr. Baldis: I have one there for you to sign. Mr. Perry's is sitting there tonight and then Kevin Long.
Mr. Kapish: Ok, so they are ready to go.  What were you saying needs to be done? Mr. Geiger: Those just need to be submitted when I submit it for the DRC review.
On top of that I am going to need the survey stuff done.  The surveyors are already aware
of that.	They already have someone working pulling reports we need. They are going to

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be minor DRC submittals so it is $560 for each review. This is opposed to a full DRC which would be like $1,400.
Mr. Kapish:  Is that consistent with what we paid before for others?
Mr. Geiger: Yes.  It is the same that we paid for the Passive Park pathway.  It was
$560 fee.  They updated the review fees in 2017.
Mr. Kapish: Is that one price fits all for all projects?
Mr. Geiger: For a minor DRC submittal it is $560, but for other things it is depending on if it is structural, residential or if you are building vertical. The entry wall went through a bigger DRC process.
Mr. Kapish: For the DRC approval you need the easements which you will have tonight and then you need the topography.
Mr. Geiger: The survey that they will provide will have all the information on it. I am going to email the application signed by Dennis.
Mr. Kapish: You can do that this week?
Mr. Geiger: Bob is out of town today and tomorrow, so they are started on the work and if I don't get it in before Wednesday at 3:00 they even really look at until next week. I am going to try and get stuff in by Wednesday, but if not my goal is before 3:00 p.m. next Wednesday to get this stuff done. I should be able to do both of these, as long as I get the survey stuff this week.
Mr. Pawelczyk: We ordered ownership and encumbrance reports so we could determine who has to sign off on the easements.  You have those right?
Mr. Geiger: As long as they are dated in the last 30 days that is what the city stipulated.
Mr. Pawelczyk:  I don't know.
Mr. Geiger: It has to be on the survey we submit.
Mr. Pawelczyk: We can send you what we have. I know the manager has it but I will send it to you tomorrow just so you have it.
Mr. Geiger: Ok they stress the 30 days. We submitted Creekside and Terrapin plans to Broward County today.  We got the traffic study they were looking for.  That has
all been submitted.  Terrapin has already been reviewed once so this is the second revision

that they  are  reviewing.

Bids for that are due the 25th of April.	We  haven't  had any

questions.  So far as long as long I get that approved set back, we will send that out to the
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contractors so that they have more updated information. Creekside is with Broward County now so Bob and I will can start getting the bid package and stuff ready. If you guys want to go ahead and move forward with that one.
Mr. Kapish:  Did you get the bids from those companies?
Mr. Geiger: They are not due yet.  The 25th of April.  Are they coming here or our office Bob?
Mr. Zuccaro: They will come here.
Mr. Kapish: When is our next meeting? Mr. Pawelczyk: The 29th I think.
Mr. Kapish:  Does that give you time to prepare the spreadsheet for it?
Mr. Geiger: If we get them on the 25th and show up like I did for the entry walls I will go to the office the next day. It took me a couple of hours to put the spreadsheet together and review the information.  We should have something for the 29th.
Mr. Baldis: Just to go back a little bit to the wall easements.  Jonathan and I talked about this wall here right in this location.
Mr. Kapish:  Oh yeah Mr. Littman.
Mr. Geiger: That is on my list of things.
Mr. Kapish: I think we should do that when we do those.  We could do it, it doesn't matter to me.
Mr. Baldis: I am just saying if he is going to turn it in, he might as well turn in as many as we can.
Mr. Kapish: If it is ready to go.
Mr. Geiger: That one is not.  I haven't started on that one yet.  They are going to

have to permit those separately anyways.

I can get them in at the same time.

Mr. Kapish:  The 43rd Place, can you put that in the same time you do the others?

Mr. Geiger: The other two?  Yes.
done pretty quickly.

It is a 20-foot wall, I should be able to get that

Mr. Kapish: If you could get that in the same time as the other two.
Mr. Geiger:  Just to clarify, that is an extra submittal so that is going to be another

$560.

Mr. Kapish: Of course.  Ok let's go back to what we were discussing.

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Mr. Zuccaro: The bids are due here usually on a Friday which is the 25th at 3:00 p.m.
We should be able to give you the tabulation.
Mr. Kapish: Just trying to move it along. Does anybody have any questions with what we have talked about so far?
Mr. Geiger: The other thing I am dealing with so far is working with Mainnor on the sign post replacement stuff. As you are aware that is going to go to license agreement. I am pretty close to getting the plans done for that to give it to Paul Carpenter to get on the committee for agenda for I want to say May 1st he said he would be able to swing that one. Mike he said he has been working with the city's attorney to draft the agreement.
Mr. Pawelczyk: I was contacted on Thursday night last week. On Friday morning I spoke with Deputy City Attorney Sherry Whitaker. They do prepare all the license agreements but because of the timing on this I asked her to send me the word document so she sent it to me Friday afternoon. I will prepare that draft license agreement. All we are doing is replacing the old project agreement for the decorative sign posts.  I anticipate a draft amongst our staff within the next two days or so. We will have it on our agenda for the 29th. Dennis will have to submit a signed version I think before it is considered by the Commissioner.
Mr. Baldis: We were trying to get it into the city for the May 1st one.
Mr. Pawelczyk: Well we don't have an agreement. It is not on the agenda. Mr. Kapish: Is that the city meeting?
Mr. Baldis: The city needs it by the 15th.
Mr. Kapish:  Of April?  May 1st is their meeting.
Mr. Geiger: That is the closest one Paul Carpenter said we could get on if we had everything in time. He also mentioned that is a morning meeting which is a little bit easier to get stuff through in the morning meetings.
Mr. Kapish: I thought their meetings were like the second Wednesday. Mr. Geiger: It is the first and the third.
Mr. Pawelczyk: I was told it was May 1st.  That is what Sherry told me.
Mr. Geiger: We are handling that. I am doing the plans separately for each roadway. When Horsepower is ready to submit the permitting for Creekside it just makes it easier,
everything is going to be under one license agreement so there is going to be no hassle in

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the city sense.  When you guys want to do sign post replacements as long as you have all those signs accounted for, the city shouldn't have any deal with it.
Mr. Kapish: Doing these license agreements seems like, like to say we are doing it for the streetlights, I thought the license agreement was for the right-of-way of the road. This point to this point, not just the median of the road, but would it include all of the right­ of-way?
Mr. Pawelczyk: That is correct.  The license agreements that we have don't pertain to these projects. Remember we tried to do a global license agreement for the right-of­ way to make it easier for us to improve the right-of-way. Us meaning the COD. The city said no. They wanted separate license agreements for each new project. Remember the original license agreement was just to mow the grass and cut the trees.
Mr. Geiger: This is why we have been trying to group more of these projects onto one like we did with the roadway ones because they said if you can do that that is fine but then it spells out each scope of each work in the project and you attach everything to it.
Mr. Kapish: Ok.
Mr. Pawelczyk:  We have asked.
Mr. Geiger: This should cover all of the sign posts you guys have so maintenance shouldn't be an issue in any of this.
Mr. Zuccaro: The flagpoles I talked to Stanford about that. Dennis has a quote from someone to do the poles themselves. The way we are structuring it is Stanford would be the GC. He is getting an electrical sub, pull the permit and give us a quote for all of that. We are waiting on the design frorri our electrical sub so that we can submit those plans. We should be able to get those in by the first of next week.
Mr. Baldis: Did we get the electrical plans?
Mr. Zuccaro: Not yet no.  That is coming from Smith Engineering.
Mr. Baldis: I just want to make sure to connect those to the new lights. Mr. Geiger: I made a note to check that on the plans.
Mr. Baldis: Thank you.
Mr. Zuccaro: I guess the other issue is the streetlighting.
Mr. Geiger:  Coral Electric just mailed off the permit application.  I need to resubmit to the city because the permit closed. I want to say the fee is only going to be $210. need the form from Coral Electric and that has to go to Rich Michaud to get signed.
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Mr. Kapish:  Ok. We are having problems with the lights. Why is the permit closed?
Mr. Geiger: The permit expired in October of last year. Rohl was not aware that their permit had an expiration date so soon. The worked stopped and they weren't pulling inspections.  It didn't extend the permitting further.
Mr. Kapish:  John Pfeiffer said he dialed in and is on hold. Mr. Baldis: Ok.  I have to turn this thing on.
Mr. Kapish: Who is paying to reopen the permit? Mr. Zuccaro: I am not quite sure.
Mr. Baldis: Why did the permit expire?
Mr. Geiger: When you don't have inspections being called and you don't do any work under the permit, basically the work stopped about October of last year. Normally the way it works if you need a permit extension Coral Springs says the GC just needs to say something that they need an extension for the permit. That didn't happen, inspections didn't happen because the work stopped.
Mr. Kapish: Does Rohl know that?

Mr. Geiger:  Rohl is aware the permit  lapsed.

In my dealings  normally  it is the

contractor.

When we work with Stanford we give him plans and he goes and pulls his

building permits. He keeps up with that stuff.  Normally it is the contractor who is supposed to be on top of this and keeping their permits active because they are the ones that need to call for inspections. I think that the $210 is low enough that Rohl should not fight you on that.
Mr. Kapish: It shouldn't be a big deal to them.
Mr. Geiger: We will contact Rohl about getting that permit back open then. Once that is open I don't know what their schedule is like. Are we still waiting for them to come out?
Mr. Baldis: Scheduled to come out for what? Mr. Geiger: To finish installing poles?
Mr. Baldis: Installation is scheduled for April 26. Mr. Kapish: Where Dennis?
Mr. Baldis: Everywhere.
Mr. Kapish: Even Terrapin Lane? Mr. Baldis: Whatever is ready.
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Mr. Geiger: We talked to the city about them already putting stuff into Terrapin Lane and the inspector just said do you guys the barrels out, and they might need a letter from Bob saying we are fine with the 1 ½  ' for medians that expanded again.
Mr. Kapish: Well, I think we talked about that and Terrapin was on hold until we get start construction on it, otherwise, we are putting poles in the middle of construction.
Mr. Zuccaro: Those plans that you submitted to the County today, what did they say eight days?
Mr. Geiger:  Sharon Grove said it was like two weeks on those comments.
Mr. Zuccaro: Once we get that we should be ready to go. Bids are due the 26 on Terrapin so hopefully around that date we should be able to get them to resume right, if he pulls his permit, renews his permit. We should get the bids in, give them the tabulation and then they can vote. We are probably looking sometime in May.  Maybe the second week in May.
Mr. Geiger: If Rohl wants to work while they are expanding the medians out there or if they are going to come back out after the medians are widened.
Mr. Kapish: I don't know.
Mr. Baldis: What is the procedure on Terrapin? What would be the first thing they would do? My question is really would they do the work, the first work to be done would that enable Rohl to put their poles in where they need to go without it being a problem?
Mr. Geiger: We could speak with the contractor and have the address the median work first. That is the issue, we are waiting on is the median work.
Mr. Baldis:  So we get to pick that?
Mr. Zuccaro: Typically methods, means and sequence is the contractor's option but you are the client.
Mr. Geiger: The major work on this is the median work.
Mr. Baldis: It shouldn't take them very long at all to do that.
Mr. Kapish: Typically when I see them do construction the first thing I have seen them do is rip out the median curbs. They rip out the poured concrete left turn lanes. They rip those all out which is really what you need to put the lights in.
Mr. Baldis: We are going to explain to them what they need to do.
Mr. Zuccaro: We will coordinate that.

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Mr. Kapish: We talked about the walls.  We talked about the roadways and street

signs.

Mr. Baldis: The Estates signs are in progress. They are moving along. The contract we signed with Anzco and their projected start date is April 22. That is the start. We gave them time to get the permit and all that.  Three weeks.
Mr. Kapish: Did we remove all those plants out of there? Mr. Baldis: Which plants?
Mr. Kapish: The flowers.
Mr. Baldis:  Most of them are gone. There is still some there.
Mr. Kapish: I was going to say if they were still survivable put them someplace else. Mr. Baldis: Robert and I have had that conversation.
Mr. Kapish: Ok. What is going to happen with the sprinklers there? Is there a plan to cut off because I don't want to kill half of the Boulevard?
Mr. Baldis: I have had the discussion with Robert. They are going to disconnect what needs to be disconnected to make sure that we can water everything. When it is done we are going to install all new irrigation throughout there to make sure that the irrigation fits the plant material that is installed. A lot of that stuff has been there since the beginning and it just needs to be done.  There is a ton of brick back there.
Mr. Kapish:  What are we going to do with that?
Mr. Baldis: I am assuming that the contractors are going to take that with them. We have no room to store that.
Mr. Kapish: Ok.   Anything else Bob?
Mr. Zuccaro: I just have some documents here to give to Dennis.  I got the checks that were given at the pre-bid meeting for Terrapin Lane.  There is a bunch of requisitions in here.  This is your packet.  If you can sign that when you get a chance.  I think that is it.
Mr. Kapish: Anybody have any questions for Jon or Bob? Anything about the bond projects Dennis?
Mr. Baldis: The Forest Glen Middle School, isn't that part of the bond projects? Mr. Kapish: Yes.
Mr. Baldis: I think we need to talk about that.
Mr. Kapish: What I wanted to bring up was I think what we need to do is start to prepare easements for the ten homes.  I think it is ten or eleven homes behind the school.
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We also need to contact the School Board and before we actually complete any easements the first thing  is I think we need to contact the School Board and get the answer from someone, someone who works with building walls on people's personal property. We cannot access with the school fence and some trees. We need an answer about, and I don't think the fence needs to be put back. We will be happy to look at the trees and put them back in a different fashion maybe.
Mr. Zuccaro: I think that last time that we met there still was some people that you had to get on the petition.
Mr. Kapish: The petition thing, I think we should contact them first to see where we are at. That petition may be not even an issue.  I want to see what their first response is.
Mr. Zuccaro: Ok I will do that. I will contact them.
Mr. Pawelczyk: They will probably require an agreement of some sort.
Mr. Kapish: That needs to be a quick answer, it can't be like one of those things where it takes six months to think about it.
Mr. Baldis: In that conversation I am sure the questions are going to be about restoration of the property. I don't want to speak for the Board, I think we are going to restore it. All the trees that are taken out, we would take responsibility for replacing them. Any damage to their asphalt sidewalk, we would make repairs to their asphalt sidewalk. I don't want to speak for the Board, I am just thinking what they are going to ask so we know and try to answer some of their questions before.
Mr. Kapish: If we damage the asphalt sidewalk, we will put an asphalt sidewalk patch
back.
Mr. Baldis: We will restore it back to its existing way with new trees, whatever the city requires us to do mitigation-wise.
Mr. Kapish: I don't think the city is going to be part of it. They are going to do what they want. The trees will probably be planted in the same area or location unless they want something different.  They will be better quality trees.
Mr. Baldis: What else do you think they are going to ask?
Mr. Kapish:  Do you think they are going to ask for our left arm?
Mr. Pawelczyk: I think it is probably just a typical, basically in this case it will probably be an inter-local agreement of some sort. They could do it that way or it is just going to be something that requires us to show that we are insured, that any contractor that we enter
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a contract with will not just  have to indemnify the District but will have to indemnify the School Board and have to name the School Board as an additional insurer.
Mr. Kapish: They probably will put up a temporary fence.
Mr. Pawelczyk: Possibly and dictate when we can be on the property. Mr. Baldis: We would like to do this when school is out?
Mr. Kapish: Sure.  Of course that may not be possible.
Mr. Pawelczyk: The other issue you may have and I don't know if this is true or not but there might be a provision that requires the contractors and the employees the background check thing.
Mr. Kapish: Those contractors working on School Board property have to be approved.  We are not on School Board property per se.
Mr. Pawelczyk:  Just because of the access.
Mr. Kapish: You are talking access only, but the actual work will be done on private property.
Mr. Pawelczyk: The work that would be done would be restoration of the grass and replacement of the trees.
Mr. Geiger:  You are going to have a construction easement. Mr. Pawelczyk: We will see.
Mr. Baldis: OK.
Mr. Zuccaro: I will put something together and run it by you before I contact them. Mr. Kapish: Can you do that as soon as possible?
Mr. Zuccaro: Yes.
Mr. Kapish:  Anything else Bob do you have for us? Mr. Zuccaro: I think that is it.
Mr. Geiger: That pretty much covers everything.
Mr. Kapish: While we are on the topic of the bond issue, do you have a date for us for the poles, the street signs?
Mr. Baldis: I do not have a solid date for that. The last email was that a portion of the poles have been ordered. They were trying to order them all at once. I don't have anything solid and I am not going to speculate on it. I have not been given like we were given previously March 151h.  I don't have a solid date yet.
Mr. Kapish: The Estate street signs are included in that order?
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Mr. Baldis: The 101 yes. In a conversation with Mainnor we have told him to order signs and I know he has ordered like 44 but he was waiting for a complete list of signs. Is that accurate, a complete list of signs before he orders everything. We had expressed to him that we need to get something going. Order a portion of these signs. I don't have a delivery date on them.
Mr. Kapish: Ok.
Mr. Baldis: That question has been asked numerous times. Mr. Kapish: We will move on then.

SEVENTH ORDER OF BUSINESS

Ratification  of	Addendum	from BrightView

Mr. Kapish:  Ratification of the addendum from BrightView.
Mr. Baldis: You approved that last meeting when Robert was here and it is signed now so we were just looking to get it ratified. It is on the agenda to make it official. It is signed now and presented.
Mr. Pawelczyk:  GMS does it just to include the executed document as part of the
record.  A motion to ratify the addendum with BrightView would be in order.

EIGHTH ORDER OF BUSINESS
A.	AVS
B.	lnnuvo, Inc.

Consideration of Camera Quotes

Mr. Kapish: Number 8 is consideration of camera quotes. A is AVS and B is lnnuvo, Inc. John Pfeiffer has joined the meeting by phone let the record reflect that. Marc Jaro our camera consultant is here today.  Marc I will turn it over to you.
Mr. Jaro: What I sent you was the quotes that you received originally which was the two from lnnuvo which is one if you all remember, was the Sony Camera which is basically the color by night which we saw. The other quote from lnnuvo is with Samsung cameras and they are going to be more like your typical cameras. It will be clearer but at night it will be black and white, but it will be very clear black and white. The other quote is from Dala from AVS Solutions.  They are up in West Palm Beach.  The owners lives in Boca so he is
local.	He does  have a fleet  of trucks  but they  are rep'd with  Dala.	Dala is another

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manufacturer. They have a five year warranty. They are in the US for many years. They have come out with some new low light cameras which I am working to get a demo on. It is a little bit slower process than I had with the other rep. I would like to give them a chance to see dollars for dollars meaning one quote is approximately $22,000 and they are coming in close to $15,000, so there is a bit of savings. I know what we are getting here with these pictures but I would like to see if I can get the same pictures to get with that vendors equipment.  Does the Board have any questions?
Mr. Kapish: Which quote is $20,000?
Mr. Jaro: $20,000 is the Samsung quote which is the higher quality images but at night it will be black and white more than likely meaning there may be a chance with the additional lighting that you put in that the cameras may capture some low light and be color at night. The guaranteed color at night is from the Sony quote which is the one at $22,000.
Mr. Kapish: Which one is the color one at night?
Mr. Jaro: The $22,000 one. All the cameras in there are color by night. That is the fountain cameras and all the other cameras that are looking at the pathways, looking at the roadways at the different angles. Everything there as long as there is enough light will be color at night.
Mr. Kapish: Do you have a sample to show us the color at night?
Mr. Jaro: Sure. What I am holding up here is you see in the upper corner here that is the original shot which is about 120 feet away.  These are digitally zoomed in. Typically if I just show up here for a moment, your pole is over here and most of these cameras are not going to be the full view. We are going to zoom in starting probably at the pathway here so we are going to close up this distance. When you digitally zoom in from here to here, it will be clear.  So now I am just doing a full digital zoom from here.
Mr. Morgan:  Where are you going to capture?
Mr. Jaro: I don't need to capture the grass over here with the cameras that are covering the fountains so with the cameras with the poles being set back there this is extra and your main target is this area. The focus of the cameras will start here. When you do additional zoom in it will be a shorter distance.
Mr. .Kapish: Why don't we just move the poles from here to here? You can still stay
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Mr. Jaro: Yes but I can do it with a camera and put a different lens on that gets me past this without having to spend money to trench, put in a new pole.
Mr. Morgan: On top of that do you want a pole right where your sidewalk is? I mean they're out of the way, you can't see them.
Mr. Jara: A car will hit it at some point or something will happen.  It is intrusive.  It is kind of hidden out here.
Mr. Kapish: I was just saying I don't know exactly where the pole is on that map. Mr. Jara: It is set back a little.
Mr. Morgan: You are saying we can do that just by refocusing them. Mr. Jaro: By putting a different lens on. The pole is right over here. Mr. Morgan: You are only grabbing maybe 20 feet anyway.
Mr. Jaro: I can get a 20 milliliter lens that goes 20 to 50 instead of getting a 2.8 which is on typical security cameras. That is what this is doing over here. I have a couple of other pictures that I want to show you. These are screen graphs. If I go to the next screen you will see over here this is zoomed into the other side. This is at nighttime. Once again you can see the color of the car, a dark colored car.
Mr. Kapish: It is amazing.
Mr. Morgan: You might be able to read the tags.
Mr. Jaro: I tried it with this. You are not going to get tags from here from this distance. Maybe with a different lens a little closer and the perfect position of the car but most cameras for license plate is direct line of sight not more than 30 degrees. This is a lot more than 30 degrees. Here is a picture of myself and one of the reps that are down there. You can definitely see two different color shirts. So these are the things that you have lay out, what you are protecting, what you want. Do you want one color camera at night then you can do others. It all depends on how you want to use this as a tool if you are looking to deter crime.  Are you looking to get additional information in the area?
Mr. Kapish: I think the color is amazing. Mr. Morgan: Tags are important.
Mr. Jaro: Tags you really need a tag camera. You can get tags with a regular IP camera if the cars are moving slowly.  It would have to be in a controlled environment.
Mr. Kapish: If you can see a person, and I am not saying face recognition, but if you can see a good shot of the person and you can see a good shot of the car whether you get
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the tag or not we did solve a crime of somebody vandalizing the area with black spray paint.  He was recognized by this white pickup truck alone.
Mr. Morgan: There would be some people that would feel that vehicle description is more important. Tags can be altered or can be changed. Most of the time they are stolen.  If you can get a vehicle description like these.
Mr. Jara: There will be some cars that may have a dark color versus black but you are going to get a vehicle description and you are going to see a manufacturer of the vehicle to do that. You can still with the higher quality black and white at night or the standard cameras, you are still going to be able to see the type of car but you are not going to be able to see the color. You are not going to see the clarity. The knowledge is coming out and more and more vendors are getting this but this specific camera, it is a Sony camera. It is a high end 4K megapixel.
Mr. Morgan: You are saying you can actually do better than this. Mr. Jara: I would not do such a wide shot.
Mr. Morgan: This shot here could be as much as 20% better.
Mr. Jara: Perhaps yes because of how it is zoomed in. This is just a screen graph. What my next plan of action is we need to put a dollar on that vendor so that we can do a demo. I am hoping in the next two weeks, there is a big trade show coming up, most of the vendors are there.  Hopefully after that I will have a camera.
Ms. Karnegis:  The monthly fee is going to be the same or zero?
Mr. Jara: Zero because with this company you are in control of your data. There may be a small maintenance fee if you have service calls or camera cleaning or if you have large video. That would definitely reduce a large amount. There is no requirement of any maintenance for you to see the video. Your video is on the tablet. Depending on provisions you can go get it yourself.
Mr. Baldis: Warranty?
Mr. Jara: Depending on the equipment can be three to five years.  Some two but

mostly  three  to five  years.

Then  for  the  service  contract  you  can  contract  with  the

companies  that will  install and they  can put together  a quarterly  maintenance  plan or

something  at a reasonable cost not at the rate that you are paying today.

It is not a

requirement.  This is a cloud, this is hosted locally.  There is other options later on if you feel that you want to store larger amounts of data to the cloud there is always ways to do
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that. There is really no need to do that here. If an incident occurs you are going to have access for up to 30 days but after that it will get re-recorded over. It is not like a retail store where you need to hold six months' worth of data. If it happened, it happened. If it didn't, it is gone. Just to let you know this is actual video. This is from the actual player. You see how far it zoomed and you see the picture before. Those are screen graphs from there with us by the fountain. With the right lens and the right equipment you can get that. Just like anything else I am going with the premise of getting color at night and getting you the best picture but there are other vendors that can do it. They say they can do it. The cameras are new but Sony has been out there for many years. All the other vendors now are getting into the market because the technology is becoming a little bit more affordable for everyone else. That is why with Dala they are the only other vendor that could do this. I did see a camera at a trade show but I am waiting for it to come into the field.
Mr. Kapish: Which one do you think we could do and would be worth it, do a night time demo.
Mr. Jara: That is what this one is.
Mr. Kapish: I am talking about a demo at the same time our Board meeting is going on.  The demo could be live. Can you do that?
Mr. Jaro:  Potentially right, to do something here at night?
Mr. Kapish:  You guys would be out there showing what you would be doing and we would be able to see it live here.
Mr. Jaro: Too much bandwidth to do that. We would need very high quality band width for internet to do that.  That is why I went there and got the data.
Ms. Karnegis: When we decide we are purchasing everything, there is no monthly fees now with technology, it is always changing. Is there something with the company let's say in three years from now the technology is way different, do we have to start a new contract with it.  Can we turn this in and upgrade?
Mr. Jara: You are going to own this. You are not leasing this. There are ways to lease and as a District you could. Typically for the cameras the software can be upgraded. Hard drives can be replaced and if there is new features you can get them as part as it being software  if there is new analytics. If you wanted to draw a box around here and wanted to be alerted if there was a car there at night or at least to notify on the recordings those types of features can be added at no charge.  Upgrading cameras is just like a car.
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You have to pay for that. The cameras should last three to five years sometimes longer depending on environmental and stuff like that but the technology once you have this color at night type technology yes it may get better but there is no way to swap that. They are not interchangeable. You can change lens on some of the cameras depending on if it is a box camera that you see at CBS that are visible but if it is enclosed in a housing, typically those can't be changed.
Mr. Carney:  When you say change lens, what do you have there?
Mr. Jaro: This is a box camera. The box camera would go into the housing that you have today.  I could change the lens.
Mr. Carney: What would that do if you change the lens?
Mr. Jaro: I would be able to change the view that I would have from here to here. If you said I want to see past this now or I want to see somewhere else the camera can be adapted, typically most of the lens are varifocal. They go 20 to 50 milliliters or 20 to 45 and allows us to get the picture that we need. For most cameras that you see at a house or business they are all wide angle 2.8 or 3.6 milliliters.
Mr. Morgan: Is that what we are going to look at or are we looking to get something even better?
Mr. Jaro: No it would be this. Mr. Morgan: Ok.
Mr. Jaro: That is why I want to do a comparison for the Dala cameras because they said they could do color at night that they have the technology. It is just a little slower in the process of getting it. We are here. The Sony rep was local and they were able to have the sample camera more readily available.
Mr. Kapish:  Is that something that we can get on our phones?
Mr. Jaro: Yes. Everything that I am showing you, you have a free app on your phone and you will have the ability to pull up the video, check the cameras.
Mr. Kapish: Everyone could even get it on their IPads.
Mr. Jaro: Yes. That is correct. That is the whole point of doing this to remove that monthly fee, give you guy's access to it and have a better tool if something happens a little faster, not that Dennis has to drive there all the time. You can actually pull video from your phone just like on most of the apps here you can download from here to your phone. You can send it to Google, to drop box, to one drive so you can actually do a lot here.  If you
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are searching for three or four hours of video you are better to do it onsite local because it is so much faster unless you have a fast internet connection from your office you can do it there as well.  So that is where I am on status of projects.  Even though it has been taking a little long I have gone through the first bucket of hours slowly going into the next bucket of hours of the next five or ten. Things are progressing. I have the vendors. I have everything. I just want to do one more demo and then work to help you guys make a decision of where to go.
Mr. Kapish: Ok.
Mr. Jaro: Something you can talk about as a Board is, do you want something like this or do you want something that is crisp at night meaning that it won't be colored. Those are some of the things to look at.
Mr.  Kapish:  I think  color at night,  because it's at night,  makes a big difference
because otherwise a vehicle, it is either white or it is not white. If you can see it is red or you can see that it is a grey can make a difference.

Mr. Jaro: That is true.
decision.

Just presenting different options so that you can make a

Mr. Kapish: As far as a person goes being able to see the color of their hair or their shirt or whatever could make a difference.
Mr. Jaro: The other cameras we are putting up to cover the walkways and to look at the roadways from where the poles are, are going to be either 2 megapixel or 4 megapixel but they will also be low light. Everything there will also be in color but, they are not going to be as expensive because these are the more expensive cameras, the larger 4K cameras.
Mr. Baldis:  So there is three cameras?
Mr. Jaro:  We are adding three.  You have four today, we are adding three.
Mr. Baldis: So there is a total of seven, and only one of them are going to be the high quality?
Mr. Jaro: No they are all going to be. They are all going to be color at night but only two will be the higher quality 4K cameras. That is the two that will be on the corners here looking out.
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Mr. Jaro: The other ones will be either 2 or 4 megapixel, but they will still be color at night, low light.
Mr. Baldis: Ok.
Mr. Jaro: They will still be able to see and zoom in digital too but they are not going to go as far as these can go for the clarity. They are a little bit more cost effective.
Mr. Baldis: How much?
Mr. Jaro: I can find out what the breakdown of those are. I don't have that off the top of my head from my vendor but I could ask them. This of course is adding new lines because we are going to be putting two cameras on the west side and another camera on the east side.  That is all I have for tonight.
Mr. Kapish: Does anybody have any questions for Marc?
Mr. Baldis: Thanks Marc.

Mr. Jaro:  Thank you for your time.	I will be in touch.

We appreciate you guys

taking the time, it is not something to rush the decision. This is a good overhaul and pick the right camera.
Mr. Kapish: Right exactly.

NINTH ORDER OF BUSINESS
A. Attorney
Mr. Kapish: Mike do you have anything for us?
Mr. Pawelczyk: Really just a quick update. The last meeting we approved some

Staff Reports

items.

We prepared agreements for the painting on Wiles  Road wall and the turf

roundabout project. I assume those have been executed or are going through the execution process. As I reported we will finalize that license agreement as soon as we can for the city for the decorative street sign project and get that over to them as soon as we can. Thinking about what we will try to do is get it to them with the understanding that you all will consider it at your April 29th meeting. We will get them an executed copy before their May 1st meeting. Hopefully that will be sufficient for them. I don’t have any other alternative solution for that. I guess we will just do the best we can to try to get it for the May 1st meeting. If not I assume it will be the second meeting in May of the city.
Mr. Kapish: I have a question Mike about signage, trespassing signs versus no
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fishing on the weekends. The Foundation does have security and they visit. He drives around and checks the lakes and sees people fishing there. He asks them to leave private property. They say they don't see any no trespassing signs. We do have them posted. Some have been ripped out so we have to replace them. Before we replace them I want to put the proper wording on them.  I just wanted to ask.
Mr. Pawelczyk: A couple of things just from that, no fishing, do we have a rule that says no fishing?  I don't think the District has ever adopted a no fishing.
Mr. Baldis: My understanding is this goes way back, the only people that can say no fishing are the Fish & Game people. That is why we put out no trespassing signs. That is going way back ten to fifteen years.
Mr. Morgan: We have no trespassing on crime for COD property, it is posted. As you're aware, you don't need signs posted every 20 feet or anything, and no trespassing supersedes no fishing. You have to trespass before you can fish, so therefore the act of trespassing supersedes, you'd charge somebody with trespassing first which would be the line in the water without a license or something like that but you have to trespass to fish. That would be the horse in front of the cart.
Mr. Baldis: I agree.
Mr. Morgan: We have put out no trespassing signs and the Board has agreed to
that.
Mr. Pawelczyk: It is really not private property. The Districts property is owned by the District. It is not open to the public because it is a lake bank. It is not like Turtle Run Park. That is where the no trespassing signs would apply as long as we are complying with the Statute on where they are located. Just for the non-law enforcement people in the room, in order to charge someone with trespassing you have to warn them first.
Mr. Kapish: The one thing that has been coming up is the security guard has approached some people and they have been standing in their homeowner's backyard so they are trying to say that they are not in the easement or on District property. They are on personal property and that allows them to fish because the pole extends over District property.
Mr. Pawelczyk: You would have to survey the property.  It is the act of fishing.
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Mr. Pawelczyk: Well if you don't have a rule there is nothing you can do against the homeowner other than to enforce the no trespassing signs. Most of the time you are trying to keep people from coming into your community and fishing the lakes particularly behind people's homes. We don't inspect the lake banks I assume to make sure that they are safe for fishing. Right? We inspect the lake banks to make sure that they are compliant with our stormwater permit but we don't make sure that they are safe for fishing.
Mr. Kapish: Correct.  Some people have altered their lake banks.
Mr. Morgan: The main thought was you are trying to deter fishing at like the main areas like the roundabout where there are benches. Kids get out there and then there is hooks in the grass. There is debris left under the powerlines. Beer cans, dead fish, hooks and so on so we adopted the policy of no trespassing, no fishing in the past. We put our no trespassing signs out there. To ask a resident not to fish in his backyard, that has to do with Freshwater and Game.
Mr. Kapish: That is not happening, but what is happening is some people are coming up and they are fishing off of areas that you can access from the road. In other words where the roundabout is there is a lake off here and these people are just parking their car. They walk across the street and they fish there.
Mr. Morgan: The other day a guy had a cast net and he was throwing it.
Mr. Kapish: Sometimes the problem also is they say they live there. I don't know that the person has the right to occupy that canal bank.
Mr. Pawelczyk: They don't according to your policy with no trespassing.
Mr. Kapish: That being the case, sometimes they say and get all ticked off because they say they live there and pay taxes and everything else. I can't go into the city hall this week and have a party even though I pay taxes too.
Mr. Pawelczyk: There is certain lakes that you cannot fish in. There are certain lake banks that you can't fish at and those lakes are owned by the County.
Mr. Kapish: Not only are these people fishing, I would call it more like some of them are harvesting our bait fish. They are catching a lot of fish and somebody said that it has been posted on some website some of the best fishing areas in Broward County, and Turtle Run is on the list.
Mr. Pawelczyk: You could post signs at those locations, no fishing to try and deter
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Mr. Kapish: Well we will have to replace them.  There are a couple of them that have been taken down where we did construction and stuff like that.
Mr. Pawelczyk: Some more teeth and that would be to adopt a rule. Mr. Kapish: We don't need one every 20 feet but maybe one a lake.
Mr. Pawelczyk: The problem is if you adopt a no fishing rule, is it really should apply to everyone.
Mr. Zuccaro:  What about no loitering?
Mr. Carney:  You don't get the groves of families coming in.
Mr. Kapish: He is catching them a lot but he is also catching a lot of flak. This one guy is saying I am not in the District property, I am on his property and my pole extends over the property.
Mr. Pawelczyk: It is still fishing in the District lake.
Mr. Morgan: If that is the case you call the police and ask them to please remove
them.
Mr. Pawelczyk: It is really no different than throwing anything over someone else's property. You are still trespassing by putting something on someone else's property.
Mr. Morgan: I think we nipped a lot of it in the bud really over the years.  I don't see people, Skip you live out there.
Mr. Carney: No question about it.  Our security guy does a good job.
Mr. Kapish: The bottom line is I think at the end of the day I think what we need to do is a sign count to the whole District. See how many signs we are missing and bring it up to date.
Mr. Morgan: I think originally we put like 24 no trespassing signs all around.
Mr. Pawelczyk: You might want to put a sign too at the entrance to the path going through the FPL easement as well.	I have seen some Districts actually because it makes sense to do so what Skip brought up is that they will put in there catch and release only. have seen signs catch and release only.
Mr. Carney:  My kids catch and release.  They take a picture and move on. Mr. Pawelczyk:  The fish are not safe to eat and they will put a warning.
Mr. Carney:  Certain cultures and families will gather up and eat them.
Mr. Kapish:  Bottom line is let's get an inventory on our trespassing signs.  If there are any missing we replace them.
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B. Engineer - Approval of Change Orders
Mr. Kapish: Ok we will go back to our engineer in case he has forgotten any item or something.
Mr. Zuccaro:  There is no change orders current today that I am aware of.

C.	Field Manager
D.	Manager
Mr. Baldis:  Eagle Paint is scheduled to start the Wiles Road wall on May 5th_
Mr. Kapish: I have the specific color and swatches for that.
Mr. Baldis:  They are different than the color that they used last time?
Mr. Kapish: Yes.  I have the specific type of paint too from Sherwin Williams.  I will get that to you.
Mr. Baldis: Ok.  At the last meeting Skip mentioned that there were RPM's out at
the roundabout.   I had Luxe go out.  They went out and said there were two that weren't working when they were there at night and they are replacing those.
Mr. Kapish: Why weren't' they working?
Mr. Baldis: I guess they just went bad.  I am not sure why.
Mr. Carney: I thought there were more than two. I will take a run around.
Mr. Baldis: Keep an eye on that. The plant material at Wiles Road wall has been removed. That is completed and the plant material on Turtle Creek Drive and Creekside to the powerline has been removed also.
Mr. Kapish: Did Robert give you an estimate for Turtle Creek from the powerlines to Terrapin Lane?
Mr. Baldis: No I didn't know he was asked to do that.  I will ask him tomorrow.
Mr. Kapish: I didn't inspect what they did but also on the corner of where Newport is, this corner here we have two, what do you call them?
Mr. Baldis: The Silvester's?
Mr. Kapish: The Silvester's look great. All the stuff with the bougainnvillea around the bottom of it the base of it I think it would make this whole thing look better if the stuff on the base was cleared out.  Just leave the palms.
Mr. Baldis: Ok.  I have been talking to another vendor about the Sample Road repair job with the brick pavers. I reached out to Stanford and he gave me a guy that I have been
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talking to. He has told me that they now have a company in North Carolina that makes clay pavers and they are cut with lasers so they are more true to their size. He has provided me a proposal but I got it late this afternoon. It appears his price is around $180,000 and he is going to be using Stanford. That price includes MOT and mobilization where the US Brick is for $191,000, the dropped their price didn't include those. If you add the $5,000 it would be at $196,000. I would like to have this gentleman come in and address the Board and talk to him because he seemed extremely knowledgeable. He wanted to make sure that we took out enough sand and rock that is existing because the cracks that we have in the pavers and he is not sure that it is not compromised underneath there. If he is going to do a job he would rather take it out, repack it correctly and then guarantee it. He said it would be trouble to guarantee something where he didn't actually put the subbase in especially since there was a lot of water and stuff sitting on it. Again I would like to invite him to come and talk to the Board. He was recommended by Stanford. Stanford said he uses him a lot.  Again he seemed very knowledgeable.  His company is Hollywood Stone. If you would like I would like to do that.
Mr. Kapish: Have him bring samples of the pavers.
Mr. Baldis: He was going to bring me samples.	He told me that a lot of the clay pavers come from Ecuador where they are put in those molds.
Mr. Kapish:  It sounds like we need to explore that.
Mr. Baldis: Ok I will be happy to invite him.   That is all I have. Mr. Kapish:  Anybody have anything for Dennis?
Ms. Karnegis: Nope.
Mr. Carney: No thank you.

TENTH ORDER OF BUSINESS
Mr. Kapish:  Supervisor requests? Mr. Carney: Nothing thank you.
Mr. Kapish:  John Pfeiffer you still on? Zaida? Ms. Karnegis: Nothing.
Mr. Pfeiffer:  Yes hello.
Mr. Kapish: Do you have anything under Supervisor requests?

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Mr. Pfeiffer: No I am good.  Thank you.  Sorry I couldn't make the meeting tonight.
I will be there in person the next one. I am good thank you Chris.
Mr. Kapish:  Lance?
Mr. Morgan: Yes I just want to revisit an issue. Chris has been doing a lot of work on the possible new lake bank signs identifying our lakes. He worked hard on it and I am not criticizing his design or anything, I just think that  maybe we need to look at other options. Some of the feedback I have gotten from people I have talked to, they say the one that you drew up or the sign people drew up it looks kind of cartoonish. It looks maybe not classy enough for our community if you will or something like that. I just think that we need to slow down on that and get a design that we can all agree on and be comfortable with. I couldn't personally support that design even though Chris worked hard on it. He is doing the best he can.  He came up with it.
Mr. Kapish: Actually it wasn't my design. We hired Mainnor to come up with a design.
Mr. Morgan: Whoever designed it was I appreciate their effort and it is hard to start from scratch. I understand that. Look at how many times we start with an idea and we beat to death and we come up with something that we all agree on. Like the fountain, how many times did we look at the fountain? This is just my rendering of something, maybe a little bit simpler. If we have to have the turtle emblem which is kind of our emblem I came up with this, it is a little bit simpler. I am not saying this is it either. If you guys say it is garbage I understand that. I am not an artist. I don't have the ability to see something and come up with something. That is not my forte. I think we just all need to come up with something that we are happy with and we all support. A lot of times on the Board that we are on here for whatever reason sometimes our residents are unforgiving. We make one little mistake and they really blow it up. We need to be perfect every time. As perfect as we can be every time.
Mr. Carney: Can I revisit the reason why we put names on the lakes? The reason was because when they were numbered people couldn't find the lakes. It was a difficult process so we named the lakes. That doesn't necessarily mean the signs have got to be billboard size. As long as the lakes are identified it doesn't mean they have to be seen from a long distance away just as long as they are driving around they can identify the name of the lake. That was the reason in the beginning correct, am I wrong?
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Mr. Morgan: I think that the signs that we lost through damage somewhere around that is the right size.
Mr. Kapish: Those were pretty large and they  were made  and scaled and the lettering was scaled to that size so that they could be seen from a certain distance because there is not a road there that is five feet from the lake. You have the set back and a canal bank and some of the signs sit down on the canal bank. They aren't really visible so that is how the size of the sign was arrived at.
Mr. Morgan: Those letters were probably like three to four inch letters at the most.
Mr. Kapish: They are not large. If it was sitting on the table here it would appear large but not when it is set back. It doesn't matter whether it is this design or whatever. That is not what is important. If we have everybody here thinking the same way. The bottom line is this is what I would do, I would take this sign sketch, take a picture of it, send it to Mainnor. Mainnor has a guy that does the detail work on it and he can come up and he will do the detail work and we will bring it back to the next meeting.
Ms. Karnegis: Can we have the turtle instead of like even in that picture at the top. You don't want anything sticking out that somebody can vandalize that. I would rather have a medallion of the turtle.
Mr. Kapish: You could have it on the side, in the middle or up here. It really doesn't matter.
Mr. Carney:  I think there is less chance of it being broken off.
Mr. Kapish: First of all it is going to be made out of a different material. The sizes were made out of styrofoam.
Mr. Morgan: If you take the sign itself, the basic sign it could be made in cast aluminum. You take the letters like we are doing at the entrance walls and you apply the letters because there is ten different names out there. You have to have the widh and the depth and everything to apply a name that is a four letter name compared to a name that is six letters and so on. You come up with a sign that is made out of cast aluminum or a product like that. They can't damage it. It can be painted and then you are going to add the letters. They can be letters that can be bolted on like we are going to do our main entrance sign.  We are going to do the sign that identifies the Estates at Turtle Run.  It is
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Mr. Kapish: It is a two-step process. The first thing is the design. I will take a picture of this and send it to Mainnor and tell him to have his artist draw it up. The second part of this is what is the best material to use on that type of sign and how to make it safe. You don't want the edges sharp. That is the two step thing. All this means that we are sending this back to him and have him redraw it.
Mr. Morgan: If we get the new benches we are going to have the medallion out or whatever you want to call that, the medallion on the back or the front.
Mr. Kapish: The logo on the back of the mailboxes I think that we have that same logo on every street sign. People don't realize it but it is up there. Because the size of it I think that is where the criticism comes from because it looks like it is huge. Once you shrink it down to this it doesn't become a problem. In fact you don't even see your mailbox until you drive up to it. I mean I know there some people that criticize it but there is some people that it doesn't matter what you do you will never satisfy everybody.
Mr. Morgan: I think the size of our old signs is the right size which would be about these signs right here.  I am just saying it is a different design.  We are not going to make it out of styrofoam where it breaks.
Mr. Carney: The turtle looks good on the mailbox because on the mailbox it is not on top of the mailbox.   I think if it was on the sign it would make a difference.
Mr. Morgan: The problem you are going to have if it is square and you have the lake sign then the turtle stuck in somewhere, there is going to be a turtle stuck in somewhere.
Mr. Kapish: Actually that should be the sign.
Mr. Morgan: Yes I like it. You might just want a square sign and not have the turtle. If you have to have a turtle I don't know. I am the type of guy where I don't need to have a turtle on everything I own.  Some guys are like that.
Mr. Carney: You have a turtle in your garage, come on Lance. Mr. Morgan: I used to have a couple of pet turtles.
Mr. Kapish: Ok.
Mr. Morgan: We need to have a design that we all can agree on. I don't want to be where when some of our residents come up and say what is up with those signs. Then people say hey, this Board member so and so, I had nothing to do with it. That happens with a lot of our projects that a Board member will say talk to that Board member I had
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nothing to do with it.  If we agree with it all then we all have to take responsibility for it. That is all I am saying.
Mr. Kapish: I will send Mainnor this picture. Mr. Morgan: Something like that.
Mr. Kapish: He might add something to it. He might take away something. He might reshape something so that is where all the detail work comes in. That is a start. You have to start someplace.
Mr. Morgan: Absolutely.  We are all agreeing on let's start on that? Mr. Carney: Yes.
Mr. Morgan: I just think that Mainnor tries hard and I like what he does. Mr. Kapish: Anything else?
Mr. Morgan: That is all I have.
Mr. Kapish: I don't have anything. Bob we are all set with what we are going to do with the School Board?
Mr. Zuccaro: Yes sir.
Mr. Kapish: Ok.  One thing I want to mention though at Turtle Run Day I don't know if you were there or left but I invited the new Mayor of Coral Springs to it. He couldn't come. Initially he said he would come by at 3:30 p.m., he had another event. Then he called me while I was there and said I can't get there till 4:00 because I have this other event that has been planned for weeks. He said but I still wanted to come. I said we are going to be cleaning up. He came there and I met with him. He spent a half hour. We went under the tent and talked about a lot of stuff. We talked about a lot of stuff that didn't happen over the last ten years. He was Mayor from 2006 to 2010. In 2010 we had some promising candidates and it turned out to be a lot of hot air. A lot of things got dismissed. A lot of negative things were said about the community. I told him what we were going to do and what we want to do and who we support is people who support us. He is pledging and I talked to him about the ball park already. I talked to him about the plans that we talked about shrinking the ballfield and that kind of stuff. He basically told me he says I like that idea and he says bring me the plans and we will talk. That is a start. I just wanted to bring that to your attention.  Sometimes things can be resurrected.
Mr. Baldis: Cool.

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Mr. Kapish:  That is more bond stuff we need to work on too.	Alright we just
a motion to adjourn the meeting.

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Adjournment

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